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    Quote Originally Posted by selbstdual View Post
    It doesn't exist there.
    There is a file there for a Scott DVD player. If they make other models there is still a good chance that they use the same carrier and codes.

    Since you apparently want someone to hand it to you on a plate, try http://www.rentron.com/PicBasic/IR_Chips.htm

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    I still really do not understand exactly what you want to do but, from a quick look at some of your other posts, that seems to be an ongoing theme.

    The Scott DVD Player uses the NEC IR protocol with a carrier of 38kHz. Scott's custom code is 8. The NEC protocol is one of the oldest (if not the oldest) IR protocol. It is widely used by many AV manufacturers and is easily understood. There's a datasheet for one of the early NEC encoder chips on my webpage at http://davehouston.net/Nec6121.pdf.

    If you want to capture these codes with a PIC, the best way is to use an IR receiver module which receives the IR, removes the carrier, and outputs the data envelope. I suggest the Vishay TSOP1100 which works with 33-57kHz carriers. If you also want to capture the carrier frequency use a photodiode on another pin and, if your oscillator is at least 8MHz, use PBP's COUNT for 1mS during the initial IR burst which is usually 2.5mS or longer with almost all protocols. The initial burst is about 9mS with the NEC protocol.

    As it happens, I've posted code to send/receive, encode/decode the NEC protocol as RF. The only difference for receiving is the polarity - the IR receiver is active low where an RF receiver is active high. For sending, modify my RF code with Bruce Reynold's IR code which I cited earlier. You can even leave it at 40kHz but you'll need to use the NEC timing in my code. See http://www.picbasic.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=6261.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selbstdual View Post
    I want to know:
    Apparently everything...right...DUDE?

    I want software in pbp to answer these questions.
    Of course you do! As usual...





    Quote Originally Posted by dhouston View Post
    Since you apparently want someone to hand it to you on a plate, try http://www.rentron.com/PicBasic/IR_Chips.htm
    Quote Originally Posted by dhouston View Post
    .....but, from a quick look at some of your other posts, that seems to be an ongoing theme.
    I don't think the plate is good enough. Hand delivered, built, tested, debugged, and put in a shiny gold enclosure...maybe...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhouston View Post
    I still really do not understand exactly what
    you want to do but, from a quick look at some of your other posts,
    that seems to be an ongoing theme.
    I did not notice this sentence.

    Quote Originally Posted by dhouston View Post
    The Scott DVD Player uses the NEC IR protocol
    with a carrier of 38kHz. Scott's custom code is 8. The NEC protocol
    is one of the oldest (if not the oldest) IR protocol. It is widely
    used by many AV manufacturers and is easily understood. There's a
    datasheet for one of the early NEC encoder chips on my webpage at
    http://davehouston.net/Nec6121.pdf.
    Interesting that no technical manual can be written for a good
    understanding. Thank you anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by dhouston View Post
    If you want to capture these codes with a PIC,
    the best way is to use an IR receiver module which receives the IR,
    removes the carrier, and outputs the data envelope. I suggest the
    Vishay TSOP1100 which works with 33-57kHz carriers. If you also want
    to capture the carrier frequency use a photodiode on another pin and,
    if your oscillator is at least 8MHz, use PBP's COUNT for 1mS during
    the initial IR burst which is usually 2.5mS or longer with almost all
    protocols. The initial burst is about 9mS with the NEC protocol. As it
    happens, I've posted code to send/receive, encode/decode the NEC
    protocol as RF. The only difference for receiving is the polarity -
    the IR receiver is active low where an RF receiver is active high. For
    sending, modify my RF code with Bruce Reynold's IR code which I cited
    earlier. You can even leave it at 40kHz but you'll need to use the NEC
    timing in my code. See
    http://www.picbasic.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=6261.
    Let us see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selbstdual View Post
    Interesting that no technical manual can be written for a good
    understanding.
    While this is written about how ProntoEdit displays IR codes, it gives a good explanation of both one Sony and the NEC protocols.
    http://www.remotecentral.com/features/irdisp1.htm

    This gives brief descriptions of 4 popular protocols. http://www.celadon.com/infrared_prot...ls_samples.pdf

    This is probably the best one as it includes PIC (ASM) code. http://www.sbprojects.com/knowledge/ir/ir.htm
    Last edited by dhouston; - 14th June 2007 at 22:20. Reason: Added a URL to IR Tutorial.

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    I like the self-adjustment of this forum! Only if I ould do such a self-adjusted circuits!

    Ioannis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ioannis View Post
    I like the self-adjustment of this forum! Only if I ould do such a self-adjusted circuits!

    Ioannis
    I don't understand you. Does your text support my question in a way ?
    Last edited by selbstdual; - 14th June 2007 at 10:22.

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    Talking is it only a Translation problem ...

    Hi, Selbst

    Could you confirm your very approximate English translation of " Ich wünche " or " Ich Möchte " is " I want " ...

    ... " I'd like " is much, much, much closer and could bring you back much,much,much useful answers ...


    But ...may be I'm wrong ...

    Alain

    " Ich bin ( auch ) ein Berliner ... "
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    Why insist on using 32 Bits when you're not even able to deal with the first 8 ones ??? ehhhhhh ...
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    IF there is the word "Problem" in your question ...
    certainly the answer is " RTFM " or " RTFDataSheet " !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ioannis View Post
    Originally Posted by Ioannis
    I like the self-adjustment of this forum! Only if I ould do such a self-adjusted circuits!

    Ioannis
    No. It is a notice to skimask.

    Ioannis
    Last edited by Ioannis; - 14th June 2007 at 10:32.

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    Smile

    I decided to say it the way I did And Acetronics, I am waiting for the nazi-comparison impatiently. Do it, let it out.

    No. It is a notice to skimask.
    He/she has already been on my ignore list. I don't know why but I guess he/she proved in the past that his/her comments need noone to watch them.

    Your post, Ioannis, didn't help either.

    Speaking of comments:

    Thanks to dhouston for his effort.
    Last edited by selbstdual; - 14th June 2007 at 12:55.
    Be well - whoever you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ioannis View Post
    I like the self-adjustment of this forum! Only if I ould do such a self-adjusted circuits!
    Ioannis
    Quote Originally Posted by Ioannis View Post
    No. It is a notice to skimask.
    Ioannis
    I don't get it either...

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