PIC USB to VB.NET

[mister_e]

I know that Darrel, I can even make my own compiler if I would like to. That's not the whole point. Seems pretty obvious you don't have a clue of what's all in the Microchip Framework then.

LCDOUT & GLCD a load ask because they can't, It's somehow easy when you take time to eat/digest the datasheet...

But still there's a MAJOR difference between simple serial/parrallel stuff on various baudrate VS USB Class & Descriptors... kinda black magic for A LOAD of people.

Arduino, Atmel have other class already made in their free compiler, I would expect Melabs be open minded to do it for their paid compiler.

It's a simple suggestion, for the real few time I ask something, don't be so defensive buddy... I love you

[dhouston]

Arduino, Atmel have other class already made in their free compiler, I would expect Melabs be open minded to do it for their paid compiler.

Well, life's too short (especially, in my case) to argue with either you or Darrell who both seem to know this subject far better than I do but, I was reading the installation instructions for the Arduino and learned that neither Linux nor OSX need any drivers to connect with its USB link (Windows only needs an .inf file). It shows up in Windows as a COM port so I assume it appears as a serial port in the others as well. However, the Arduino is using a rather powerful Atmel ATMega8U2 32-pin MCU just for USB->serial so it's understandable (at least to a dim-witted geezer like me) that Microchip might not be able to accomplish quite the same thing with a single MCU.

[mister_e]

FALSE, you can create any USB device with ANY usb capable of MCU. You just need to use Generic classes, and this is just all about the USB descriptor.

Should you need higher speed & specific feature, you develop your own USB driver... and for that, you need to do it for ANY OS platform...

[dhouston]

I wasn't really talking about the OS end but about the embedded end where Arduino dedicates an MCU to USB->serial while Microchip does not..

[Darrel Taylor]

Well mister-e,

Looking at the Arduino language reference ...
http://arduino.cc/en/Reference/HomeP...rence.Extended
I don't even see any native USB commands.

I don't look for Arduino stuff, so maybe you have a better link to native commands.
I have seen a USB library for it. But much like you or I would write routines for PBP, it was user created.

And the only MIDI usage I can find, is thru an FTDI chip ...
A far cry from a compiler command.

As for the Microchip USB "Framework" ...
http://www.microchip.com/stellent/id...cName=en537044

I am quite familiar with it, and I'm sure you know that it only has a MIDI Demo application.
You've already emailed me regarding that program and indicated it wasn't very good and you wanted melabs to make a better one.

MIDI is just that, an application.
It's not a compiler command.

No matter what melabs could generate for a MIDI application, somebody would want more.
It's a loosing proposition that is better left to the programmers writing the application.

With that said...
It's well within the capabilities of PicBasic Pro to write a MIDI application.
It's just up to you to do it.

[mister_e]

I don't talk only about MIDI, oh well forget that then, I guess my suggestion are more to give Melabs idea more than to help myself, bah forget it... Since that e-mail, I've fixed their mistakes, rolled my own and everything's fine... no worries.

NEXT!

[Darrel Taylor]

... Since that e-mail, I've fixed their mistakes, rolled my own and everything's fine... no worries.

NEXT!

Great!

Wanna share?
Someone I know was looking for a free MIDI program.

[mister_e]

MPLAB is free, C18 has free version, Microchip framework is free and there's a MIDI-DEMO in... or he just need to roll his own based on MIDI Demo like I did, after all

It's well within the capabilities of PicBasic Pro to write a MIDI application.
It's just up to you to do it.

... or be patient 'till the public release of Or-BIT IDE, but from what I know, it's ain't going to be free and still not 100% of all freebies inside.