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    Default Re: ELAPSED TIMER: TimerConst not defined

    Quote Originally Posted by Ioannis View Post
    Have done some test a while back on Timers 0 and 1 on 1939 chip and all went just fine.

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    Ok, well that's promising cause it also has the enhanced 16bit timer1.
    https://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/.../40001574C.pdf

    I even made sure to put the INCLUDES in the exact same order, but the error persists.

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    It's either something totally obvious, or painfully obscure.
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    Default Re: ELAPSED TIMER: TimerConst not defined

    FOUND IT!

    https://www.picbasic.co.uk/forum/sho...8683#post28683

    The Elapsed-18.bas only has constants for 4,8,10,20 and 40 mhz.
    Got some reading to do...
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    Unfortunately I am away from any lab and cannot test again.

    It will take some time till I can do that...

    I recall that I did not use exactly Elapsed Timer but the DT-INTS only. Maybe that is why it worked OK. In any case it should work with Elapsed also.

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    You beat me! Nice you found that detail! Hope it works OK now. But you use a 16F series chip not 18F.

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    Of course I had to open a can of worms.

    This thread goes into detail how Darrel's Elapsed timer is off by 1:

    The value he used for each of the Oscillator rates is (1) less than it should be.
    The reason is that he calculated the Timer1 counter overflow value as 65535 instead of using 65536.
    Timer1 is a 16bit counter from 0 to 65535.
    It takes 65536 counts to overflow (Wrap back to 0) and trigger the Timer1 interrupt.
    This means that his 10ms interrupt will actually run longer by (1) instruction than it should.
    https://www.picbasic.co.uk/forum/sho...789#post132789

    Note to self: TimerCalc is in MultiCalc by Mr. E; (Timer Helper).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon View Post
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    It's either something totally obvious, or painfully obscure.

    I can see the future! It turns out it's a combination of totally obvious and painfully obscure. It was looking at me right in the face.


    I added in Elapsed_INT.bas and it compiled without TimerConst errors.

    Code:
      If OSC == 32
    TimerConst = 0FFB7h
      EndIF
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    Default Re: Solved - ELAPSED TIMER: TimerConst not defined

    Great! Just confirm it counts correctly now.

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    Default Re: Solved - ELAPSED TIMER: TimerConst not defined

    It compiles, but now I have to find the correct value.

    I'm now on Art's thread trying to find that out:

    https://www.picbasic.co.uk/forum/sho...020#post156020


    EDIT: Darrel talks about the Prescaler and adding NOPs here:

    https://www.picbasic.co.uk/forum/sho...9649#post69649

    And that's about where my eyes start glossing over. I had also read a comment (somewhere) about Darrel using a prescaler of 2 for 64MHz, so I'm pretty sure I'm on the right track.


    EDIT SOME MORE: For future me when I'm looking for the same answer, Prescaler is controlled in T1CON.
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    Default Re: Solved - ELAPSED TIMER: TimerConst not defined

    Ok, I couldn't figure out how to incorporate Prescaler in Art's formula, so I took another route:

    - used Preload from 16MHz
    - set Prescaler to 1:2

    Counter on LCD worked as expected.

    https://www.picbasic.co.uk/forum/sho...025#post156025
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    Default Re: Solved - ELAPSED TIMER: TimerConst not defined

    Art's formula with Prescaler:

    65535 - (((( MHz / Prescaler ) / 4 ) x 10000 ) - 8 )
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