Cant get it to work

[bearpawz]

Yeah, just my mistake trying to draw up a quick schematic. I fixed it though and its now hooked up as the new schematic shows. And yes, now using port B.4 now (pin 7) only because it makes the circuit on the breadboard cleaner. was going to try and take pictures of it but my camera sucks... and it still is not working at all. I am stumped. I guess its possible that I have a bunch of bad chips so I guess I will order more and see if that helps at all. I still think its a fuse thing some how though, even though I have it set to internal osc.

Does anyone know if there is a better programer software out there than IC-prog (preferably freebe) that works with JDM programmers?

[mackrackit]

I still think its a fuse thing some how though, even though I have it set to internal osc.

Then show us how you have the *.inc file setup or how you are doing it in code space.

Please do not say you are setting them with icprog...

[aratti]

I guess its possible that I have a bunch of bad chips

Expecially if you have powered them with reverse supply.

You show 1K resistor in series with leds. This is too much!

Let's make the resistor calculation together:
It is safe enough to assume 1.7 voltage drop for non-high-brightness red led, so 5 volts - 1.7 volts (led drop) = 3.3 volts

10 miliamps is the normal forward current for a standard led so:

3.3/0.01 = 330 Ohms

With 1K you will have a very weak led since: 3.3/1000= 0.00333 = 3.3 milliAmps
just 1/3 of the current required.

Al.

[malc-c]

Assuming you have wired everything correctly, and not as per your original sketch then it could be that either your JDM programmer isn't programmingn the PICS or IC-Prog is not setting the config correctly.

The only other program I know that might work and is free is Win-Pic 800 ( http://www.winpic800.com//index.php?...d=18&Itemid=64 )

[bearpawz]

Hmm. let me double check this:

Yes I am using 1K. The "Power" LED seems to do just fine with the 1K but I see what your saying about the pic not having a whole lot of current. Just for gits and shiggles I removed the resistor all together comming from the pic and not so much as a blown LED... just a whole lot of nothing...

However....

Then show us how you have the *.inc file setup or how you are doing it in code space.

Please do not say you are setting them with icprog...

Actually, yes.. that is exactly how I am setting the fuses. Is that wrong?

Assuming you have wired everything correctly, and not as per your original sketch then it could be that either your JDM programmer isn't programmingn the PICS or IC-Prog is not setting the config correctly.

That was my original assumtion as well. I have done all kinds of little "tests" though (writing data in EEPROM memory and reading it back, etc). I dont *THINK* its the programmer hardware but I would bet my life it isnt either. For all I know its a bunch of bad chips... though I have had no luck with 16F88 chips either and those I have here are brand new in the tube.

[mackrackit]

Actually, yes.. that is exactly how I am setting the fuses. Is that wrong?

EEEH, not really wrong, just not the best way. Find where you can turn this feature off and read this.
http://www.picbasic.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=543

PBP by default reads the *.inc file for the chip that is in the PBP directory. You can modify the *.inc to the setting you want or modify it so the configs can be set in code space.
The difference between the two is a personal preference.

[mackrackit]

For the 16F88, this is what the beginning of your code should look like if you are setting the configs in code space and want the ADC off, MCLR as an input, internal 4MHz.

    DEFINE OSC 4           
    OSCCON = %01100000
    @ __config _CONFIG1, _INTRC_IO & _WDT_OFF & _LVP_OFF & _MCLR_OFF &_CP_OFF
    ANSEL = %00000000

[HenrikOlsson]

Hi,
I don't know, perhaps I'm way late here but your original program reads HIGH 0 and LOW 0 which may work on a BASICStamp but I don't think it works with PBP - even after including the BS1/2 defs - which you don't seem to have done anyway.

Al, covered it in his program by changing the code to HIGH PORTB.0 etc but then in a later message you say you're using PORTB.4 instead. Did you change the code so it reads HIGH PORTB.4 etc?

/Henrik.

[malc-c]

Hi,
I don't know, perhaps I'm way late here but your original program reads HIGH 0 and LOW 0 which may work on a BASICStamp but I don't think it works with PBP - even after including the BS1/2 defs - which you don't seem to have done anyway.etc?

/Henrik.

Good point,

The original code doesn't even state what to high and low, what port, what variable etc. Barepawz can you post your entire code as it now stands?

Given the suggestions, it should now set the config bits via the inc file, turn all ports digital, turn off A/D, and flash your LED.

Oh and it's not advisable to drive a LED without any series resistor, this will allow the LED to draw as much current as it needs, which could be more than the PIC can provide. My EasyPIC5 board uses 1K resistors with "normal" 3mm defuse red LEDS, which work even though they shouldn't according to Al's formula, possibly as the forward current is probably 20ma rather then the 10ma used in the example. If you're using one of the Ultra-bright LEDS then use the formula in Al's post along with the data sheet for the LEDs you are using.

[jellis00]

Does anyone know if there is a better programer software out there than IC-prog (preferably freebe) that works with JDM programmers?

I also use MCS with PBP version 2.6, but I use a PICKIT2 as my programmer rather than the IC-prog. This development configuration lets me compile and program the chip in one step without creating a .hex file and downloading it into the programmer like most configurations. My configuration is reliable and works great. PICKIT2 is worth the $50 just to simplify the development environment. Plus if you then place a 6-pin header on all your board designs, you can connect directly to your final board configuraiton for re-programming in the field.

[Acetronics2]

HI, BPWZ

I can't resist ...

http://www.picbasic.co.uk/forum/show...95&postcount=6

Alain

[malc-c]

If you have access to another PC then try using the programmer with that. It is a well documented fact that serial ports on a lot (if not most) laptops lack the power that JDM programmers need to generate the programming voltages.

I can remember having loads of programming issues when I was using a commercial version of this type of programmer with IC-Prog. I've since purchased an EasyPIC board which has a built in programmer and software - which I must say has never let me down.

If your funds can't stretch to an EasyPIC board, then I too would suggest you look at the picKit2 programmer.