Help with pressure sensor.

[mackrackit]

Is there any advatage of reading the analog value using ADCIN vs. Bruces example? Any disadvatages?

I like Bruce's example because I feel it allows more control.
Example:
I can when reading multiple channels, or one channel for that matter, switch from 8 or 10 bit with
ADCON1.7 = 1
or
ADCON1.7 = 0

I have not checked to see if one way is faster or uses less code space.

[DavyJones]

I like Bruce's example because I feel it allows more control.
Example:
I can when reading multiple channels, or one channel for that matter, switch from 8 or 10 bit with
ADCON1.7 = 1
or
ADCON1.7 = 0

I have not checked to see if one way is faster or uses less code space.

Mack,
Gotcha that would make sense. If you don't mind can we discuss the 8 bit vs. 10bit and let me rant a little about some observations. With regards to the ADC isn't just the obvious difference between reading 8 bit vs. 10 bit just precision? There is nothing else to consider is there? I can either get a return value from 0 -> 255 or 0 -> 1024. One thing I noticed given the 8 bit response it tends to not bounce around as much as the 10 bit. The 10 bit response raw data when I am at 0psi bounces all over the place from 92 to 100. I have to run that through Darryl's average routine to get that stablized. That helps but doesn't stop it completely which brings me to a question is there any way to get that to settle down? The other question is whats the proper term for a signle interval on the ADC read? Is it tick or interval, increment?

My other observation/question based on your statment about switching back and fourth between 10 bit and 8 bit. From my observations and looking at many examples of code there is always more then one way to accomplish something in the coding. I didn't miss anything here right I mean:

ADCON1 = %10000000
'ADCON1.7 = 1 'I DID THAT ABOVE RIGHT?

Setting ADCON1.7 = 1 is essentially the same thing as my example correct? You're just setting the individual bit right?

After this experience and reviewing what you taught me and looking at Bruce's example more closely that you could accomplish the 8 bit using the ADCIN by just setting ADC_BITS=8 in the beginning and the read on ADCIN basically puts both the ADRESH and ADRESL together for you in your variable. If you choose to use Bruce's method and wanted to do the 10 bit you've got to put those two result registers together right? Setting ADC_BITS is a one time thing at the beginning?

It's tough even with the datasheet until someone get's you pointed in the right direction. I think I am intellegent and I should be able to figure this stuff out but thats not always so. Now that you've given me direction it's much clearer I appreciate the help I get from this forum.

Good morning

David

[mackrackit]

Mack,
Gotcha that would make sense. If you don't mind can we discuss the 8 bit vs. 10bit and let me rant a little about some observations. With regards to the ADC isn't just the obvious difference between reading 8 bit vs. 10 bit just precision? There is nothing else to consider is there? I can either get a return value from 0 -> 255 or 0 -> 1024. One thing I noticed given the 8 bit response it tends to not bounce around as much as the 10 bit. The 10 bit response raw data when I am at 0psi bounces all over the place from 92 to 100. I have to run that through Darryl's average routine to get that stablized. That helps but doesn't stop it completely which brings me to a question is there any way to get that to settle down? The other question is whats the proper term for a signle interval on the ADC read? Is it tick or interval, increment?

Just a precision thing. With more precision you can can expect more "bouncing" sometimes noise will cause this or the sensor it's self. A lot of sensors a pretty sensitive Sometimes a capacitor from the ADC pin to zero will help smooth thing out, This may even be needed with some 8 bit applications.

My other observation/question based on your statment about switching back and fourth between 10 bit and 8 bit. From my observations and looking at many examples of code there is always more then one way to accomplish something in the coding. I didn't miss anything here right I mean:

Yep there is always more than one way do do anything. I coding we call this a style.

ADCON1 = %10000000
'ADCON1.7 = 1 'I DID THAT ABOVE RIGHT?

Setting ADCON1.7 = 1 is essentially the same thing as my example correct? You're just setting the individual bit right?

For your chip
ADCON1 = %10000000
makes all of th ADC pins analog, left justified, VREF+ at VDD and VREF- at VSS.
If you want some of the ADC pins digital or change the VREFs then you will run into a problem.
ADCON1.7 = 1 or 0 is just changing that particular bit.

After this experience and reviewing what you taught me and looking at Bruce's example more closely that you could accomplish the 8 bit using the ADCIN by just setting ADC_BITS=8 in the beginning and the read on ADCIN basically puts both the ADRESH and ADRESL together for you in your variable. If you choose to use Bruce's method and wanted to do the 10 bit you've got to put those two result registers together right? Setting ADC_BITS is a one time thing at the beginning?

Not quite... In the data sheet I have for this chip take a look at section 11.4.1.
The register containing ADRESH and ADRESL is really 16 bits wide. ADRESH and ADRESL are 8 bits each.

It's tough even with the datasheet until someone get's you pointed in the right direction. I think I am intellegent and I should be able to figure this stuff out but thats not always so. Now that you've given me direction it's much clearer I appreciate the help I get from this forum.

This all can be quite confusing, if this forum was not here I would not have a clue either.

[erice1984]

I have a similar problem, I got everything to work, except translating the math.

My lowest ADVAL is 0 and it's also the HIGHEST pressure.

I saw how the math worked out for him, but I am lost.

[erice1984]

AD Res 1024

Lowest voltage = .085v = 100psi = ADVal 18

Highest voltage = .999v = 10psi = ADVal 205

In order to switch everything around all I did differently was subtract my highest voltage (1volt) from lowest voltage (.085volt) and went from there!

[erice1984]

So then I thought it out a little more, and instead of converting to voltage etc.. ADVal represents that value...

SO

highest ADVal = 205

205 - whatever the adval is at for the input from the sender = x

x * .5347 = pressure

on my 187 resolution scale here.

[erice1984]

didnt work very well... lost again

[mackrackit]

AD Res 1024

Lowest voltage = .085v = 100psi = ADVal 18

Highest voltage = .999v = 10psi = ADVal 205

In order to switch everything around all I did differently was subtract my highest voltage (1volt) from lowest voltage (.085volt) and went from there!

Can you give the make and model or data sheet for the sensor?

Maybe show your code too.

If that voltage range is correct I would go with 8 bit resolution and a reference voltage. Are you really getting a lower reading with a higher pressure?

[erice1984]

yes, its an autometer 2242 pressure sender unit. its really annoying.

all I have is
15 ohms = 100psi
175 ohms = 10psi


What I am doing right now is using regulated current. ~5mA