35mA led with 25mA pic output?


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    You can still use a pair of I/O in parallel to drive up to 50mA. It's been widely used in the past. I'm not a fan of it... but sure it may work. You just need to play with the WHOLE TRIS register value.
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    There are LEDs and then there are LEDs. They can vary widely in their brightness output. For example, these are 2 green LEDs in a 5mm, T-1 3/4, thru hole package. Both are rated at a test current of 20mA.

    http://search.digikey.com/scripts/Dk...me=511-1191-ND
    This one has a rated output of 100mcd. This is typical of commonly available LEDs, 50 -300mcd.

    http://search.digikey.com/scripts/Dk...FPG1-15Q-A3-ND
    And this one has a rated output of 34,000mcd.

    The output of the 2nd. one is 340 times that of the 1st. And it is not even a matter of price - both of them are about the same. So if the LED is bright enough for you at 20-25mA, just go for it. If not, get a brighter one. No need to mess with paralleling outputs, using BJT's or MOSFETS etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmteo View Post
    The output of the 2nd. one is 340 times that of the 1st. And it is not even a matter of price - both of them are about the same.
    Almost...
    The 1st one, at 10 degrees off center still looks about 70% of it's total.
    The 2nd one, at 10 degrees off center is only about 30% of total.
    So while the one may be brighter, it's only brighter in the middle, it's got a bit more focus...if that makes any sense...

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    Quote Originally Posted by skimask View Post
    Almost...
    The 1st one, at 10 degrees off center still looks about 70% of it's total.
    The 2nd one, at 10 degrees off center is only about 30% of total.
    So while the one may be brighter, it's only brighter in the middle, it's got a bit more focus...if that makes any sense...
    Sure does. My point is that if you are using an LED as an indicator, 20-25mA is plenty to get a sufficiently bright display with the right LED. A high efficiency LED at just 1mA can be almost blindingly bright.

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    Absolutely TRUE!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rmteo View Post
    Sure does. My point is that if you are using an LED as an indicator, 20-25mA is plenty to get a sufficiently bright display with the right LED. A high efficiency LED at just 1mA can be almost blindingly bright.
    Agreed. It is just an indicator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmteo View Post
    There are LEDs and then there are LEDs. They can vary widely in their brightness output. For example, these are 2 green LEDs in a 5mm, T-1 3/4, thru hole package. Both are rated at a test current of 20mA.

    http://search.digikey.com/scripts/Dk...me=511-1191-ND
    This one has a rated output of 100mcd. This is typical of commonly available LEDs, 50 -300mcd.

    http://search.digikey.com/scripts/Dk...FPG1-15Q-A3-ND
    And this one has a rated output of 34,000mcd.

    The output of the 2nd. one is 340 times that of the 1st. And it is not even a matter of price - both of them are about the same. So if the LED is bright enough for you at 20-25mA, just go for it. If not, get a brighter one. No need to mess with paralleling outputs, using BJT's or MOSFETS etc.

    34000mcd... awesome! I didn't even think such exist
    What if I put one on my car ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by xnihilo View Post
    34000mcd... awesome! I didn't even think such exist
    What if I put one on my car ...
    34000mcd (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candela) sounds really bright and really impressive, and they are fairly bright when viewed straight on...but it's not all that.
    These are what I used in my toobz...
    http://www.philipslumileds.com/pdfs/DS05.pdf
    70mA drive current with a 1/2 power viewing angle of 90 degrees.
    They aren't the Luxeon super bright, multi-watt, power LEDs, but they do well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mister_e View Post
    You can still use a pair of I/O in parallel to drive up to 50mA. It's been widely used in the past. I'm not a fan of it... but sure it may work. You just need to play with the WHOLE TRIS register value.
    Unfortunately I don't have enough pins. One pin only can be dedicated to a led. I will use the led at lower voltage as many suggested in this thread.

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