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    Hi,

    See this URL:
    (Schematics of the first version of Bitscope in PDF files).
    http://www.bitscope.com/design/

    The used ADC:

    TLC5540: 8-Bit High-Speed Analog-to-Digital Converter
    Sample Rate (max) 40MSPS

    http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folder...t/tlc5540.html
    http://focus.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/tlc5540.pdf

    Price about 5 USD:
    http://www.digikey.com

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    If you need an USB oscilloscope: (USB powered).
    http://www.bitscope.com/product/BS50/

    Made in AUSTRALIA.

    Best regards,

    Luciano
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    This firma has also complete units.
    I use one of them and I am very satisfied with it.

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    Thumbs up Bitscope

    Quote Originally Posted by Luciano View Post
    Hi,

    See this URL:
    (Schematics of the first version of Bitscope in PDF files).
    http://www.bitscope.com/design/

    The used ADC:

    TLC5540: 8-Bit High-Speed Analog-to-Digital Converter
    Sample Rate (max) 40MSPS

    http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folder...t/tlc5540.html
    http://focus.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/tlc5540.pdf

    Price about 5 USD:
    http://www.digikey.com

    * * * *

    If you need an USB oscilloscope: (USB powered).
    http://www.bitscope.com/product/BS50/

    Made in AUSTRALIA.

    Best regards,

    Luciano
    Bitscope appears excellent. I like everything except for the Windows UI. Too past date. Bitscope, in terms of price is comparable to a good quality brand new 20MHz CRO. Too expensive. TLC5540 has some nice specs. Price seems good too. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. DIY USB scope for under $100 in kit form, can it be done?

    Regards,
    Trent Jackson

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    Hi,

    You need an FPGA to build a digital oscilloscope.

    The acquired ADC data goes from the ADC to the RAM under the
    control of the logic implemented in the FPGA. (The acquired
    data is stored into the RAM without the microcontroller).

    Best regards,

    Luciano

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    Question Configure a PIC as a PLC

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    You need an FPGA to build a digital oscilloscope.

    The acquired ADC data goes from the ADC to the RAM under the
    control of the logic implemented in the FPGA. (The acquired
    data is stored into the RAM without the microcontroller).

    Best regards,

    Luciano
    Hi,
    Thanks for your feedback on this. Do you think it would make a viable alternative in configuring a fast enough PIC to fetch data from the ADC and then place it in RAM. Something running at 48MHz should handle it?

    Best regards,
    Trent Jackson

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    Hi,

    You need a microcontroller with an external memory bus.
    Even with an external memory bus, the oscilloscope will be
    slow or better said just a toy. My assumption here is
    that you need an oscilloscope for projects where
    microcontrollers are involved. If you need an oscilloscope
    for audio signals then go ahead, it will be fast enough.

    Try to calculate how fast your oscilloscope could be.

    Best regards,

    Luciano

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    Cool If it's under $1,000 it's a toy!

    Quote Originally Posted by Luciano View Post
    Hi,

    You need a microcontroller with an external memory bus.
    Even with an external memory bus, the oscilloscope will be
    slow or better said just a toy. My assumption here is
    that you need an oscilloscope for projects where
    microcontrollers are involved. If you need an oscilloscope
    for audio signals then go ahead, it will be fast enough.

    Try to calculate how fast your oscilloscope could be.

    Best regards,

    Luciano
    For the hobby end user, most test gear is a toy. In my opinion even Bitscope falls into this category. It's not uncommon nowadays for service techs to be using 500MHz + DSOs. Of course an extreme overkill for any enthusiast and not something that you would ever really consider unless there was some considerable financial gain to be made from it from either generating new work or speeding up the process of your current service. If you don’t work with 500MHz gear then chances are you don’t need it.

    SRAM: 20nS or thereabout
    ADC: 40MSP/s

    The upper limitation is the RAM. (1 / 20nS) = 50MSP/s

    *Anything greater than this is like trying to generate free power. Or, more commonly an amplifier that supposedly puts out 200WRMS when the DC rails are only good for 100W. Like duh, did I just get ripped off or what…

    *The million dollar question I guess is this. Without using too much black magic in the software for interlacing and periodical guess work, how many samples of a waveform is considered to be sufficient analysis? Sure with 40MSP/s you could take one sample of a 40MHz sine wave every second. Won’t look like much of a sine wave on the screen though. If you allowed say 20 samples of every cycle then this might suffice. (40MSP/s / 20) = 2 MHz. Undoubtedly there must be the presence of some host software magic some where a long the line. Hmm, is my DSO really 20MHz or is there just a whole heap of black magic in the software making a lot of assumptions?

    Best Regards,
    Trent Jackson

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    Hi,

    Bandwidth vs Sample Rate:
    http://www.bitscope.com/design/hardw...r/?p=bandwidth

    * * *

    High speed S-RAMs: 12 ns
    http://www.cypress.com

    Best regards,

    Luciano

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