A new MPLAB IDE

**Acetronics2** · - 23rd December 2010, 13:27

Hi,

As told in the Title ...

Still a beta Version, but really promising.

**Ioannis** · - 24th December 2010, 07:22

Hi Alain.

Have you tested with PBP? Does the new X IDE support the lanquage?

Ioannis

**Acetronics2** · - 24th December 2010, 08:35

Hi, Ioannis

The beta version , to the day, only supports "Microchip" compilers, but It's of course planned to support Third Party ones ... the "add toolsuite " feature already is here !!!
So you have to use assembler or C without conditionnal assembly ... for the moment.

remember it's NOT at production level and many features are still disabled.

PicStart plus is no more supported as a programmer ... halas !

Alain

**Ioannis** · - 28th December 2010, 08:30

Sorry for the late reply, but e-mail notifications still do not work...

Thanks for the feedback.

Sorry that PicStart and PicStart+ are not supported. I have the both of them...

Anyway, technology keeps moving forward, so we adapt, right?

Ioannis

**mackrackit** · - 28th December 2010, 09:47

Was/ is there a command line option for the PicStart+ ?

**Ioannis** · - 2nd January 2011, 13:36

I could not find any up to this moment David.

Ioannis

**mackrackit** · - 2nd January 2011, 15:49

Darn...
looks like another gadget for the shelf. But I have not used mine for a year or so anyway.

**Ioannis** · - 2nd January 2011, 16:42

I got Picstart, Picstart+, ICD1, ICD3, Pickit3 and ELNEC PikProg+.

I think I have a record! Anyone else?

By the way, do you receive e-mail notifs?

Ioannis

**mackrackit** · - 2nd January 2011, 16:56

You got me beat. I only have PicStart+, PicKit 1, and a couple of PicKit 2.

Nope, no email for a couple of weeks and no news either.

**Ioannis** · - 2nd January 2011, 18:06

Ooh, I forgot. I am expecting another Pickit3, as a gift from the Local Microchip Seminar! (Plus the touch clock they gave us with a AAAA battery!)

Ioannis

**mister_e** · - 2nd January 2011, 19:31

Originally Posted by mackrackit

Was/ is there a command line option for the PicStart+ ?

there's PICP, but you may miss loads of new devices... it's an open-source though... worth it?

**mackrackit** · - 2nd January 2011, 20:23

Originally Posted by mister_e

there's PICP, but you may miss loads of new devices... it's an open-source though... worth it?

Probably not worth it. Portable computers with serial ports getting hard to find/cost to much.....

A PicKit2 on the bench and one in the go bag and I am set.

I will just put the PicStart in the shed. The Tandy and C64 need company.

**mister_e** · - 2nd January 2011, 21:00

Those are beauty... when I was young... Any chance you have a TI99 and a VIC20 as well

BTW, did you have a look at Commodore website? He's back! http://www.commodoreusa.net/CUSA_C64.aspx

**mackrackit** · - 2nd January 2011, 22:03

Any chance you have a TI99 and a VIC20 as well

Nope.

That new C64 looks interesting. It would make a great conversation piece...

But Steve... you are not looking so good

**mister_e** · - 2nd January 2011, 22:12

Jealous

**Acetronics2** · - 3rd January 2011, 09:07

Anyone for an Unicom 202SR, a HP35, HP29C, and full options HP86B ???
Plus Casio Fx 850 and 880P ...

Alain

BTW, DO NOT upgrade MPLAB to V 8.63 ... there's a bug and previous ASM projects cause a MPLAB Locking when Built.
PBP projects do not seem to fail, but ... better to be careful.

**Darrel Taylor** · - 3rd January 2011, 18:12

Alain,

Do you have an example program that will lockup with MPLAB 8.63?

I can't seem to duplicate it with ASM programs that I have.
If Microchip messed something up again, melabs needs to know.

Thanks,
DT

**Acetronics2** · - 4th January 2011, 12:39

Hi, Darrel

Nothing special with those asm files ... their compilation ALWAYS create an IDE locking.

I re-installed v 8.63 : still locking

went Back to V 8.60 and everything works fine ...

soooooo, I really think it's a bug !!! ( no line about any projects mods to do in the IDE release notes )

My OS is XP Home SP3 " up to date " ...

Have a happy new year

Alain

**Acetronics2** · - 9th January 2011, 11:26

I had made 4 attempts ...

4 times it has bugged ...

A last one to send Microchip a screenshot ....

MPLAB was very, very long to start this time ( ~ 5 minutes ) , and there were strange things about the last used compiler location ( blank address ! ) ... but , once correctly answered, project compiled correctly.

with no more strange issues.

Sooooo ... what has happend ???

Great Mystery !!!

Alain

**retepsnikrep** · - 29th January 2011, 07:41

The ide update appears to break mpasm

I now get the following error on all my old projects

error 118 overwrite previous address contents I tried to go back to 8.10 and still have the same error now :roll:

http://www.microchip.com/forums/m439213.aspx

Which working version are others using?

**mackrackit** · - 29th January 2011, 07:49

error 118 overwrite previous address contents

That is from setting the configs in two places. You must be setting them in code space with out commenting the PBP *.inc files.

**mackrackit** · - 29th January 2011, 07:54

Which working version are others using?

Use the one that came on the cd when you purchased PBP. That one works.

**ScaleRobotics** · - 29th January 2011, 07:59

Originally Posted by retepsnikrep

Which working version are others using?

I am using MPLAB IDE 8.60 (MPASM 5.38) with PBP 2.60

What version of PBP do you have?

**retepsnikrep** · - 29th January 2011, 18:07

2.60A I'm away on holiday and dont have by pbp cd with me.

It's not setting the configs twice. The link I posted seems to suggest something has chan ged with mpasm.

**mackrackit** · - 29th January 2011, 20:11

Maybe if you posted your code and configs it would help.

Or just install from your CD when you can.... That is what it is for. Everything you need in one convenient place.

**retepsnikrep** · - 29th January 2011, 20:28

Sorted now it was the configs :roll: Appologies for doubting the gurus on here

**Acetronics2** · - 5th May 2011, 09:20

Hi, All

Great News ...

MPLABX supports PBP Now ....

Sure Charles could tell us some words about it ... ( about the use or not of PBPMPLAB.bat ... i.e.)

and may be explain me that ...

/usr/bin/make -f nbproject/Makefile-default.mk SUBPROJECTS= .build-conf
make[1]: Entering directory `/c/Program Files/Microchip/MPLAB IDE/Projets/X/Lights.X'
/usr/bin/make -f nbproject/Makefile-default.mk dist/default/production/Lights.X.production.cof
make[2]: Entering directory `/c/Program Files/Microchip/MPLAB IDE/Projets/X/Lights.X'
mkdir -p build/default/production
C:\\Program\ Files\\Microchip\\MPLAB\ IDE\\PBP\\PBPW.EXE -ampasmx -k# -p12f675 Lights.pbp
make[2]: *** [build/default/production/Lights\.cof] Error 1
make[1]: *** [.build-conf] Error 2
make: *** [.build-impl] Error 2
PICBASIC PRO(TM) Compiler 2.60C, (c) 1998, 2011 microEngineering Labs, Inc.
All Rights Reserved.
ERROR: Unable to execute mpasmx.make[2]: Leaving directory `/c/Program Files/Microchip/MPLAB IDE/Projets/X/Lights.X'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/c/Program Files/Microchip/MPLAB IDE/Projets/X/Lights.X'
BUILD FAILED (exit value 2, total time: 609ms)

Alain

**HenrikOlsson** · - 5th May 2011, 13:09

Yes, do tell us more please.
I've been playing around with the evaluation version of UltraEdit and I'm starting to get code folding and syntax highlighting to a place where I want it but there are many other things that needs sorting (and removed from the default layout) for it to be worth it.

If MBLAB X is the bee's knees then there's no need to spend the time and cash on UE.

**Acetronics2** · - 5th May 2011, 13:46

Download is here :

http://www.microchip.com/en_US/family/mplabx/index.html

Alain

**Demon** · - 5th May 2011, 16:03

How does this compare with Mecanique Microcode Studio Plus?

Is it worth changing if I'm used to MCSP?

I know it's free, but MCSP is already paid.

I remember looking at MPLAB when I first started and it didn't look as user friendly as MCS, things just didn't look at intuitive. It could have been just me, tastes and first impressions affect our choices so drastically.

**Acetronics2** · - 5th May 2011, 17:07

IMPORTANT

For beta 6 support PICBASIC PRO and CCSC was added. However, support to import an MPLAB 8 project using this compilers is not there yet. You need to recreate the projects using the "Standalone Project" wizard.
Also, to use the PICBASIC PRO, you might need to add mpasmx to your path: add $InstallationDir\mpasmx. For example, if you installed to the default MPLAB X installation directory in a 32 bit Windows system, you'd need this in your path:
C:\Program Files\Microchip\MPLABX\mpasmx

Do this if you get the error:
ERROR: Unable to execute mpasmx.make[2]:

If you change your path, you need to re-start MPLAB X.

Alain

**Ioannis** · - 5th May 2011, 17:10

I sure agree with you Robert.

The MPLAB feels like the ... bad old DOS environment.

I prefer the MCS too.

The X is different from the old 8.xx and promisses to give some whistles and bells.

If anyone has tested the editor please report.

I do not want to download the over 200Mb beast just to see that I do not like it...

Ioannis

**rmteo** · - 5th May 2011, 18:19

Originally Posted by Ioannis

The X is different from the old 8.xx and promisses to give some whistles and bells.

If anyone has tested the editor please report.

I do not want to download the over 200Mb beast just to see that I do not like it...

Ioannis

Plenty of user experiences over at the MCHP Forums http://www.microchip.com/forums/default.aspx

**HenrikOlsson** · - 5th May 2011, 18:50

Hi,

How does this compare with Mecanique Microcode Studio Plus?

MCSP is great but it doesn't seem to be maintained any more which is unfortunate. It lacks code folding (so does MPLAB 8.xx when used with PBP, AFAIK) and it lacks "true" source level debugging.

Norm is onto something with his FineLineIDE but I don't think it'll provide source level debugging.

/Henrik.

**Ioannis** · - 5th May 2011, 19:05

Originally Posted by rmteo

Plenty of user experiences over at the MCHP Forums http://www.microchip.com/forums/default.aspx

Have not found something related to PBP though...

Ioannis

**rmteo** · - 5th May 2011, 19:13

Perhaps Ace is the only one who has used it with PBP - and he's not telling.

**Ioannis** · - 5th May 2011, 19:30

Alain? Are you hiding something from us?

Ioannis

**mister_e** · - 6th May 2011, 00:52

I say, no picture, no proof, I don't believe it... like a recent Barak Obama Annoucement... (cough)(cough)

**ScaleRobotics** · - 6th May 2011, 02:59

I've got proof ....

Proof that it doesn't work for me ....

But I obviously don't get as far as Alain.

**Demon** · - 6th May 2011, 03:24

I installed MPLAB when I reinstalled everything recently, I just never got around to giving it a 2nd look.

Right now MCSP does pretty much all I need so I'm content.

...
It lacks code folding (so does MPLAB 8.xx when used with PBP, AFAIK) and it lacks "true" source level debugging.
...

I don't know what either one is anyways.

True source is being able to look at the assembler-generated code maybe?

So I fired up MCSP to see what the last dates were in the HELP/ABOUT; 2001, 2005.

So I clicked on the FORUM to see what that looked like and it sent me here. LOL

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