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    I have been using the following wireless modules,

    Transmitter:
    http://www.e-madeinchn.com/TM1000-4.pdf
    Receiver:
    http://www.e-madeinchn.com/RM4SG.pdf
    Encoder/Decoder:
    http://www.datasheetcatalog.com/data...2/PT2262.shtml
    http://www.datasheetcatalog.com/data...2/PT2272.shtml

    They are 433 MHz RF transmitter / receiver pair with 4CH encoder / decoder.


    So far they have worked great as I have used the receiver end connected to the PIC and the transmitting end usually hooked up to buttons. This works fine, if i press a button connected to a channel I get a steady logic level high output on the receiving end's complimentary channel.

    However, now I'm trying to use them with the transmitting end hooked up to the PIC.

    My first test was very simple. I have a PIC sequentially setting pins RB0 through RB3 high (exponential counting) changing once per second. I connect these pins to the 4 inputs on the transmitter, along with 100uf and 0.01uf filtering caps across the transmitters Gnd and V+. RB0 through RB3 are also connected to LEDs to show status on transmitting end.
    At the receiving end I connect each pin via resistor to an indicator LED.

    When I connect power one of three things happen.
    - all the lights turn on at once on the receiving end although they light normally at the PIC
    - all lights flicker rapidly on receiving end, normal on PIC side
    - lights comes on, sometimes flickering a bit and change very slowly, not reflecting what is lit on the PIC end.

    I have a feeling it has something to do with noise output from the chip even though I'm trying to filter with caps.
    It seems to be quite random which of these 3 happens when I turn it on.

    Anyone have any similar experiences or insight?


    Image below shows setup (not all filtering caps or power connections present at this stage).

    -Justin

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    So, are you saying that it works fine with the encoder/decoder, but you break it if you try to connect the PIC directly to the TX module?

    This subject has been gone over again and again and again here.

    Do a search for RF Modules or something similar.

    There has to be a hundred threads on that subject alone...at least...

    Lots of good info at www.rentron.com

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    OK, I'll take the "Dumb Test".

    Is that a 6V battery?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darrel Taylor View Post
    OK, I'll take the "Dumb Test".

    Is that a 6V battery?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darrel Taylor View Post
    OK, I'll take the "Dumb Test".

    Is that a 6V battery?
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    I am sure it is a regulated 5 volt supply, cleverly disguised as a six volt battery . . . isn't it ?
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    I've been searching the forums all day, not many people have a similar setup to mine. Those who do have not posted enough detail for me to see what I might be doing wrong. There were a few threads that had some similar problems using encoders but they were left unsolved.

    I'm hoping there might be someone who is using a similar setup who can provide a link or tell me what I need to use.

    I don't even need to send data here, just transmit the state of a few pins. Hints would be great too if you just don't want feel like giving away too much info.

    Thanks

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    I am sure it is a regulated 5 volt supply, cleverly disguised as a six volt battery . . . isn't it ?
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    Erm, well, I was in a hurry to set it up again for a pic, that L8705 is around here somewhere....
    -Justin

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    Quote Originally Posted by greensasquatch View Post
    I've been searching the forums all day, not many people have a similar setup to mine. Those who do have not posted enough detail for me to see what I might be doing wrong. There were a few threads that had some similar problems using encoders but they were left unsolved.

    I'm hoping there might be someone who is using a similar setup who can provide a link or tell me what I need to use.

    I don't even need to send data here, just transmit the state of a few pins. Hints would be great too if you just don't want feel like giving away too much info.

    Thanks

    <i>
    I am sure it is a regulated 5 volt supply, cleverly disguised as a six volt battery . . . isn't it ?
    </i>
    Erm, well, I was in a hurry to set it up again for a pic, that L8705 is around here somewhere....
    That's OK Justin, just a friendly poke . . . Using that as a power source, how do you get any consistancy not knowing if the voltage is over the PICs max or under the BOD min? Kinda like workin' out in the fringe, so when a problem occurs you look and ask yourself is it my code or my hardware or both? There is a trick, to making tasks easy, and it is simply, Do not make things difficult for yourself, plenty of others out there willing to do it for you.
    If you do not believe in MAGIC, Consider how currency has value simply by printing it, and is then traded for real assets.
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