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    Hi All,

    I'm trying to convert a 10bit or 12bit word "position" to 0-360 degrees with 2 or 3 digits after the decimal point

    I have this routine working for conversion to degrees without decimal point
    anyone who can help me with this mathematics:

    Scale = 1024 (might also be 4098 for 12bit)
    dummy = position * 64
    dummy = dummy *360
    result_64 = DIV32 scale
    degrees = result_64/64

    thanks

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    Hi,

    The answer is quite simple :

    360° + 3 decimals = 360 000 steps ... 19 bits !

    360° + 2 decimals = 36000 steps ... 16 bits

    How do you do that with a 10 or 12 bits ADC ???

    try to look at 16 to 20 bits ADCs.


    Now, JUST for calculations ...

    3 decimals ... need at least PBPL and a Pic 18 ... Why not.


    The final smile ... what about your position sensor precision and linearity ???

    Alain

    2 decimals Ok
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    Thank you for your fast reply

    yes you are right, So 360 / 4096 = 0.087 deg

    The linearity is ok as it is an absolute magnetic encoder

    I would like to display the result on an LCD in a xxx.xx format or xxx.xxx
    even if it does not reach its final resolution and the last digits are not correct or rounded

    Any help welcome

    Walter

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    thank you joe, but value's are getting to big to fit in a 16bit var

    I thnk I need help from the Mathematics guy's

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFsolution View Post
    thank you joe, but value's are getting to big to fit in a 16bit var

    I thnk I need help from the Mathematics guy's
    That is most positively not me
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    Quote Originally Posted by RFsolution View Post
    Hi All,

    I'm trying to convert a 10bit or 12bit word "position" to 0-360 degrees with 2 or 3 digits after the decimal point

    I have this routine working for conversion to degrees without decimal point
    anyone who can help me with this mathematics:

    Scale = 1024 (might also be 4098 for 12bit)
    dummy = position * 64
    dummy = dummy *360
    result_64 = DIV32 scale
    degrees = result_64/64

    thanks
    This might get you 2 behind the point...
    Code:
    scale = 1024
    dummy = position << 6'wont overflow 16 bits, same as *64 but quicker
    dummy = dummy * 360 'will overflow 16 bits
    result_high = div32 scale 'but doesnt matter here
    degrees_whole = result_high >> 6 'same as divide by 64 but quicker
    
    scale = 1024
    dummy = position << 6 'wont overflow 16 bits, same as *64 but quicker
    dummy = dummy * 36000 'will overflow 16 bits
    result_low = div32 scale 'again, doesnt matter here
    degrees_fraction = result_low >> 6 'same as divide by 64 but quicker
    degrees_fraction = degrees_fraction // 100 'take out the -whole- degrees and leave the fraction
    
    lcdout $fe , 1 , "Degrees:" , DEC3 degrees_whole , ":" , DEC2 degrees_fraction
    This should work for a 10 bit ADC, but for a 12 bit ADC, the 2nd chunk will overflow. Changing the 36000 to 3600 and 100 to 10 should let the 2nd chunk work with one digit behind the decimal point, or change 36000 to 9000 and 100 to 25 and you'll get 2 digits behind the decimal point but in steps of .04

    And upgrade to PBP 2.50b
    Last edited by skimask; - 5th September 2008 at 05:31.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skimask View Post
    This might get you 2 behind the point...
    Code:
    scale = 1024
    dummy = position << 6'wont overflow 16 bits, same as *64 but quicker
    dummy = dummy * 360 'will overflow 16 bits
    result_high = div32 scale 'but doesnt matter here
    degrees_whole = result_high >> 6 'same as divide by 64 but quicker
    
    scale = 1024
    dummy = position << 6 'wont overflow 16 bits, same as *64 but quicker
    dummy = dummy * 36000 'will overflow 16 bits
    result_low = div32 scale 'again, doesnt matter here
    degrees_fraction = result_low >> 6 'same as divide by 64 but quicker
    degrees_fraction = degrees_fraction // 100 'take out the -whole- degrees and leave the fraction
    
    lcdout $fe , 1 , "Degrees:" , DEC3 degrees_whole , ":" , DEC2 degrees_fraction
    This should work for a 10 bit ADC, but for a 12 bit ADC, the 2nd chunk will overflow. Changing the 36000 to 3600 and 100 to 10 should let the 2nd chunk work with one digit behind the decimal point, or change 36000 to 9000 and 100 to 25 and you'll get 2 digits behind the decimal point but in steps of .04

    And upgrade to PBP 2.50b
    All this math makes my head hurt , couldn't you do the math twice with different multipliers, throw out the top numbers from one, and the bottom numbers from the other and display the results together separated by the decimal point ? Or is that what you just said?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe S. View Post
    All this math makes my head hurt , couldn't you do the math twice with different multipliers, throw out the top numbers from one, and the bottom numbers from the other and display the results together separated by the decimal point ? Or is that what you just said?
    You could do what you suggested, but I split it up to display the math involved a bit more clearly...
    If I was me as I usually am, I would've put something like this instead:
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    dummy=(position<<8)*90:result_high=div32 1024:degrees_whole = result_high >> 6
    dummy=(position<<8)*9000:result_low=div32 1024:degrees_fraction=(result_low>>6)//100
    lcdout $fe,1,"Degrees:",DEC3 degrees_whole,":",DEC2 degrees_fraction

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    Thank you skymath
    I will give it a try this evening
    I have PBP 2.50 need to patch to 2.50b, what is special in 2.50 regarding to
    my conversion problem, dont find anything in the changes log that points to that



    Quote Originally Posted by skimask View Post
    This might get you 2 behind the point...
    Code:
    scale = 1024
    dummy = position << 6'wont overflow 16 bits, same as *64 but quicker
    dummy = dummy * 360 'will overflow 16 bits
    result_high = div32 scale 'but doesnt matter here
    degrees_whole = result_high >> 6 'same as divide by 64 but quicker
    
    scale = 1024
    dummy = position << 6 'wont overflow 16 bits, same as *64 but quicker
    dummy = dummy * 36000 'will overflow 16 bits
    result_low = div32 scale 'again, doesnt matter here
    degrees_fraction = result_low >> 6 'same as divide by 64 but quicker
    degrees_fraction = degrees_fraction // 100 'take out the -whole- degrees and leave the fraction
    
    lcdout $fe , 1 , "Degrees:" , DEC3 degrees_whole , ":" , DEC2 degrees_fraction
    This should work for a 10 bit ADC, but for a 12 bit ADC, the 2nd chunk will overflow. Changing the 36000 to 3600 and 100 to 10 should let the 2nd chunk work with one digit behind the decimal point, or change 36000 to 9000 and 100 to 25 and you'll get 2 digits behind the decimal point but in steps of .04

    And upgrade to PBP 2.50b

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    LONGS!!!!
    Look in your manual on the different variable types. 2.5 can do 32 bit +numbers
    or 31 bit - numbers. Something like that. The negative takes up a bit.
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    Lightbulb Don't forget the "*/" and "**" operators.

    OK, You want to scale a number by a constant factor. This is pretty easy using the "*/" and "**" operators. This way you can save some time since the calculations are pretty easy to do for the processor, no divisions only one multiplication. You can learn more about them here http://www.emesystems.com/BS2math1.htm . A short way of describing them is that "*/" makes an invisible division by 256 and "**" divides by 65536.

    Older versions(pre 2.50) can only use WORD sized(16 bits) variables, meaning your result must be 65535 or less.
    1024 to 360. Degrees = position */ 90 or Degrees = position ** 23040
    1024 to 3600. Degrees = position */ 900
    1024 to 36000. Degrees = position */ 9000

    4096 to 360. Degrees = position ** 5760
    4096 to 3600. Degrees = position */ 225 or Degrees = position ** 57600
    4096 to 36000. Degrees = position */ 2250

    If you have PBP2.50 you can have your result bigger than 16 bits. 360000 is then possible.
    1024 to 360000. Degrees = position */ 90000
    4096 to 360000. Degrees = position */ 22500

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    Thanks Ingvar or should I say "professor Math" !

    give it a try this evening

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