Well it looks like this is important:

<b>DEFINE OSCCAL_1K 1</b> and only good if I am using pbp which I am not so there is probably some equivilant for pbc, but that aside...

Before I did anything with the chip I read it and saw no values yet when I write to it it always says it will use the value in h3FF which, as far as I can tell, is nothing.

I still gather that I have to use some snippet of code to properly set up the clock (the code above for a 4mhz chip I assume). I'd just like to really figure out if things are erased or not erased or hidden away or what the heck.

Bandgap is another one that I can't see any value for although I do get a checkbox to change it or use the default (which I currently am doing).

Everything works for what I need to work, but I'd really want to get my head around it for the future. The chip is the 12F629 and it seems like it is just this 12F series that has these issues.

Bart