well its still not working, ive tested the circuit with a 16f628A on proteus and it works, but i cant simulate a 684 and i dont have any other chips till they come in the post.

im a bit worried about the actual lcd module, because there seems to be no life in it what so ever apart from the led backlight.

is there any way to test it? like make all of the lcd's bits turn on so i can see if its not knackered?

thanks

phil