First of all I would like to thank you again for all of your wonderful help. It is nice to know there are people like yourself and the other members of this forum in this world who devote so much time and energy to helping newbee's like myself.

I don't wan't you to go through all the trouble of re-createing my project unless of course, you want the code (it is a pritty nifty way of showing the temp in windows).

Besides all that is it possible that it is the VB code that is locking up the pic when it isent even connected when the pic program hangs up?

my next thing will be testing out the vb program on a basic stamp I have, if that works at least I know the vb part works, the next will be trying it out on a 16f84 and then if that works I will buy another 16f877 and see if it's the ic.

If anyone has any other sugestions or you still want the code let me know
Thank You
Snap