mister-e : what one do you recomend then ?
I can spend 30 - 50 euros, but dont want to buy

>>> http://www.microchipdirect.com/produ...rds=DV003001++

Part Number: DV003001 - PICSTART PLUS DEVELOPMENT SYSTEM

It is 136 euros (plus tax, I guess)

I did write to microchip, asked to program a 18F452 and a 18F4520, and they say "DV003001"

Thanks for sharing your opinions !