ok cheers guys, but ive just had an insident involving my Flash PICKit 1, a shitty alternating power supply and something called "hiss hiss fuzz frazle ouch thats hot bugger".

So no more experimenting till i get summit else. One good question though, what programmer does everyone use, thus which do people think is the best for build/price/comatibility assuming that i only program basic PIC's?

Is it worth forking out for a picstart plus (rip off) or sometihng else.
cheers