External osc defines

[Mugelpower]

Hi Joe,

i´m using the PicKit2 and i didn´t find any osc settings in the programmer window. That was what I tried at first.

had the Velleman programmer before and this had the possibility to set osc configs. But that one died long ago.....simply didnt work anymore.

on the other hand: PicKit2 is fast an easy to use and supports everything, even the 16F628A...hahaha

[Mugelpower]

Hi Bruce,

I know the datasheet shows RA7 is external clock in..but I dont get it working. When connecting to RA6 it works. should I try a long-time test if the pic gets to hot? maybe a resistor between canned oscillator and PIC?

[Archangel]

Hi Mugelpower,
Here is what I think, <b>I say think because I do not definately know.</b> Being that your config fuse setting is WRONG, I think your PIC is not properly set up for EXT OSC and that is why it will not accept input on RA7, I THINK it it using the oscillator as a crystal, somehow getting enough signal to work, elsewise it may be defaulting to int osc, who can say? Try sending out some serial data to a serial lcd and see if it scrambles the data, better yet correct your config statement and then try the OSC on it's proper pin. I compiled your code both ways and the hex files have some distinct differences. One more thought, the PIC is probably using the default config statement in the 16F628A.inc file, unless you have commented it out.

[Bruce]

Try the attached .hex file with your oscillator connected to RA7. This is your code compiled
with EC oscillator settings I posted previously.

If it doesn't work I would guess you have a bad PIC, oscillator, or both. Or your programmer
is not using the config options embedded in the .HEX file.

This @config_EXTCLK_OSC is not valid, so it does nothing to set EC mode. Whatever config
options you're getting programmed into the PIC are the defaults in 16F628a.inc. Normally osc
is set to XT in the defaults. In this mode, OSC2 provides the drive for an external crystal circuit
like the one shown in first diagram on the link you posted.

[Mugelpower]

Thanks Bruce,

will test that in the evening. Its now 3 pm. will take another 4 hrs til I´m home.

Does That mean MPASM doesn´t handle extern osc settings ?

Or does it mean the PicKit2 sets its own default osc settings?


very strange.

[Bruce]

MPASM works just fine with any config directives the PIC has, but they are different than config directives the PM assembler expects. See the thread I linked to above for the details on config use. Melanie does a nice job explaining this.

I don't have a PicKit2, so I can't really say how it works, but I would assume it can read & use config options embedded in the .HEX file, or give you an over-ride option.

Maybe someone else here familiar with the PicKit2 can comment on this one?

Look in the 16F628a.inc file in your PBP directory. If you use PM, it uses the top config defaults. If you use MPASM, then the 2nd default config options are used.

When you insert a bogus config directive in your code, it isn't used, and of course it has no bearing on what config options will be embedded in the .HEX file.

Read the thread by Melanie I linked to earlier. It is well worth the time.

[Mugelpower]

Thanks Bruce,

your file is ok and now 20Mhz could find their way via RA7!

I will try to grasp the "Define-thingy" by reading and trying.

Ha!