ok... i havent done anything "bad" to this one either... and ive wrecked a few so far.. mostly inserting into sockets backwards!!! and the last one i did, was when i first started SMT stuff, i soldered a 44-tqfp 16f877a with the writing up, so pin 12 (i think) was where pin 1 shoulda been.. i didnt look at the little dot in the corner.... i kept trying to program it, and for some reason it wouldnt program!!!

ill take a picture of the board in a few minutes... dont make fun of the solder, im doing it all by hand with a $20 iron.. i have also soldered parts multiple times trying different things.. which reminds me, when i can afford it, i will probably buy some 18f's in DIPs so i can breadboard it and play around... i just cant seem to get them to work and im not sure why...