How do you learn best?

[T.Jackson]

Granted, some have the 'paper' and cash who come with... but they hire people like me and sign their name the bottom... and that's nice 'cause i can do something else while they still learn...

Not in Australia mister e, just not in Australia. If you were an unqualified engineer working in Australia, at very best you'd get to sweep the floor. "If you're lucky"

[mister_e]

Even 'qualified Engineer'... well on paper, we all know that there's some good,bad, and worst. Some, see mnay of them should be killed with some pretty bad design... see dangerous design. But yeah, they're ALL 'qualified'.

To me the paper doesn't mean anything. Unfortunately, market and old thinking are still believe in it. People buy anything without knowing what's behind the scene... at least if it looks good, it's a good product... really sad.

[T.Jackson]

Even 'qualified Engineer'... well on paper, we all know that there's some good,bad, and worst. Some, see mnay of them should be killed with some pretty bad design... see dangerous design. But yeah, they're ALL 'qualified'.

To me the paper doesn't mean anything. Unfortunately, market and old thinking are still believe in it. People buy anything without knowing what's behind the scene...

You've got a lot to learn, a lot of growing up to do, but first you must realize that what you're saying is actually quite laughable.

[mister_e]

It isn't what we call 'freedom of speech' ???

If for you ALL engineers are king of the world and they're always right... then probably you have to learn and grow up you too.

you must realize that what you're saying is actually quite laughable.

I don't care, i perfectly assume everything i say... every day. Believe it or not.. i don't care. You have your own opinion, i have mine, everyone have their own.. that's life.

This said, i never said i don't believe in engineer and studies... i just try to give some observation and truths.

Nobody's perfect, but i hate when someone think that X is better than Y just because X have an extra paper that Y don't... even if Y never failed...

[Melanie]

You just hit the biggest problem to progress the world is facing right on the head... and it's not global warming...

...it's the fact that people are AFRAID to speak out...

They guy who sweeps the floor is afraid he'll lose his job if he asks that the waste bin is pushed closer to the coffee machine...

The Miner who doesn't speak out about safety issues because he might not be employed there next week - he won't be employed there because next week he'll probably be dead.

The guy who thought the rubber gasket on a Shuttle wasn't going to work at low temperatures didn't speak out because it'll look bad for him, the company, the project and the bottom line...

You're afraid that if you chose a controversial subject, your exam mark might be adversely affected... So if it is - challenge it! It'll show everyone that you've got Balls and will ultimately speak volumes on a CV to a future employer - far more than any grade. So instead you chose to play it safe - and oh-so boring!

Have confidence in what you do - and if you have confidence in your argument, then you can challenge your examiners. After all, you might just change the life of the guy reading your paper...

[T.Jackson]

You just hit the biggest problem to progress the world is facing right on the head... and it's not global warming...

...it's the fact that people are AFRAID to speak out...

They guy who sweeps the floor is afraid he'll lose his job if he asks that the waste bin is pushed closer to the coffee machine...

The Miner who doesn't speak out about safety issues because he might not be employed there next week - he won't be employed there because next week he'll probably be dead.

The guy who thought the rubber gasket on a Shuttle wasn't going to work at low temperatures didn't speak out because it'll look bad for him, the company, the project and the bottom line...

You're afraid that if you chose a controversial subject, your exam mark might be adversely affected... So if it is - challenge it! It'll show everyone that you've got Balls and will ultimately speak volumes on a CV to a future employer - far more than any grade. So instead you chose to play it safe - and oh-so boring!

Have confidence in what you do - and if you have confidence in your argument, then you can challenge your examiners. After all, you might just change the life of the guy reading your paper...

Pretty uncanny timing - we both posted a message @ exactly 22:21 (see msg prior to this one)

It's too difficult to turn into an argument anyway, especially considering it has to be kept under 1,000 words. Thanks for the vote of confidence though

[T.Jackson]

Do you have IQ or EQ Test? I guess that would be good.

I think that the tickle IQ test is pretty good. http://web.tickle.com/

Regards,

Trent Jackson

[T.Jackson]

It isn't what we call 'freedom of speech' ???

If for you ALL engineers are king of the world and they're always right... then probably you have to learn and grow up you too.

I don't care, i perfectly assume everything i say... every day. Believe it or not.. i don't care. You have your own opinion, i have mine, everyone have their own.. that's life.

Don't put words in my mouth. There's a lot more than meets the eye with qualifications, let me explain. Completing a degree, diploma or certificate-based qualification is a nice accomplishment by anyones standard, and this sends a strong message to people that you're well & truly capable of seeing something "through" So, you see, having a qualification isn't just about owning a certain skill set. Willing to bet that there's quite a few qualified computer programmers out there that were given the chance to take on an entirely different role, say for example; accounting, and without having to do an another degree. I'm starting to believe that if you can prove that you can stick with and finish something, you stand a better chance at landing that job.

Feel free to disagree