A Little surprise with PbP 2.50 ...

[Steve_88]

Hi Alain,

I just ordered pbp2.50 a few days ago, it's disappointing an updated manual or at least some examples of the new features are not given.

-Steve

[BrianT]

Being warned via this forum that PBP 2.50 was a fairly major change I ordered the CD-ROM with new handbook. The pair arrived so it is available. I have yet to find the major changes except to note that a compile with PBPL takes much more codespace than the same code compiled with BPBW.

A great pity is that there are no examples of what can be done with LONG variables and errors or shortcomings still remain with some commands.

The new manual is a small cost and was worth it to replace my dog eared and coffee stained manual from several revisions ago.

The MELABS web site and the manual fail any reasonable test for 'traceability'. There are no meaningful revision numbers shown in the manuals, or on the web site. There are no statements about what version is supported by the manual.

I imagine the PBP staff are reluctant to put the latest manual up on the web as it would only encourage ripoff copies of the program and the manual.

HTH
Brian

[locko]

Although the manuals do not have the software revision number on them, they do have a date. It is located on the first page.

2.46 = 9/05
2.47 = 9/05
2.50 = 7/07

Haven't written anything using 2.50, just made sure it works - so no comments on it yet.

Regards,

Paul

[Acetronics2]

Confirmed ...

Here is a little try: ( read from the .ASM file )

; C:\PROGRAM FILES\MICROCHIP\MPLAB IDE\PROJETS\PICBOARD.BAS 00046 LCDOUT $FE, $C0, DEC NCD I,"°öµC"
LCDOUT?C 0FEh
LCDOUT?C 0C0h
LCDOUTCOUNT?C 000h
NCD?WW _I, T1
LCDOUTNUM?W T1
LCDOUTDEC?
LCDOUT?C 0FFB0h ************ " ° " outputs $B0 instead of $DF
LCDOUT?C 0FFF6h ************ " ö " outputs $F6 instead of $EF
LCDOUT?C 0FFB5h ************ " µ " outputs $B5 instead of $F7
LCDOUT?C 043h ************ " C " outputs $43 … which is GOOD !!


Not so easy to debug what happens to Cin value !!!

Alain

[MarioC]

I agree with BrianT, maybe Microengineeringlabs don't wan't people to get the updated manual via pdf.


The manual has some insight on the new LONG format; some new DIG modifiers (0-9, instead of 0-4) SDEC and other issues but it lacks on good support.

I got mine back in 2003 when I got PBP at Rentron..... a pitty they don't upload the new manual to their website (melabs that is).

[Ioannis]

Confirmed ...

Here is a little try: ( read from the .ASM file )

; C:\PROGRAM FILES\MICROCHIP\MPLAB IDE\PROJETS\PICBOARD.BAS 00046 LCDOUT $FE, $C0, DEC NCD I,"°öµC"
LCDOUT?C 0FEh
LCDOUT?C 0C0h
LCDOUTCOUNT?C 000h
NCD?WW _I, T1
LCDOUTNUM?W T1
LCDOUTDEC?
LCDOUT?C 0FFB0h ************ " ° " outputs $B0 instead of $DF
LCDOUT?C 0FFF6h ************ " ö " outputs $F6 instead of $EF
LCDOUT?C 0FFB5h ************ " µ " outputs $B5 instead of $F7
LCDOUT?C 043h ************ " C " outputs $43 … which is GOOD !!


Not so easy to debug what happens to Cin value !!!

Alain

If I got it right, by that you mean that new version 2.50 puts garbage to strings?

Ioannis

[Acetronics2]

Hi, Ioannis

The exact meaning is PbP 2.50 LCDOUT doesn't work properly with characters which Character "number" is > 127 ( see LCD Character Table ...)

Alain

[Wilson]

Well now. Maybe when novices ask a question, senior members will stop saying RTFM

[Luciano]

PbP 2.50 LCDOUT doesn't work properly with characters
which ASCII "number" is > 127 ( see ASCII Table ...)

Hi Alain,

OS version?
What is the used language on you PC? English United States?

Can you post a short program so that someone can try to
compile it on a 100% English United States system?

Best regards,

Luciano