Thanks for the words of wisdom and ecouragement. I have seen and read all of the fine print from ITT. I don't feel like it was a waste of time. I wish ITT would make it harder for people to graduate. I also wish I had read the fine print before barfing up all that money to go to ITT. I will continue my path to BSEE. I can test out of many classes for 75 USD per test. That will cover economics, sociology, art history, world history and other periferal 'education enhancement' credits. However, I've found science and engineering departments don't have tests for things like ciruit analysis 201, or power transmission 112. Even the tests that are available for science degrees are unlikely to go well for me, and I'd bet for %99 of post graduates with science degrees. How confident would you feel taking and passing a calc based physics test five years after taking the class?