Yeah - I've spent almost the past 20yrs dealing with Jaycar Electronics. They offered me a petty sum of $1 p/micro for a timer project I designed back in 2003 so that they could turn around and sell it for about $50. I laughed. You're gamer than I, noway I'd mess with Jaycar. In fact I'm actually quite scared of them. Silicon Chip too, after some recent discoveries.