But mister-e the so called "un" real programmer that i have costs only a tiny fraction of the real programmers. And it does the job well.
But mister-e the so called "un" real programmer that i have costs only a tiny fraction of the real programmers. And it does the job well.
PICKIT2 cost = $40 (give or take)
JDM style programmer = (tiny fraction) * PICKIT2
Time spent building a JDM style programmer = Insert hours and cost/hour
3 days of posts and time lost due to not being able to program a chip plus time searching for the solution and implementing that solution = (calculate what your time is worth here)
Being able to program a chip with an inexpensive programmer and knowing that it'll work the vast majority of the time = Priceless...
Or does it?
EPIC by MELABS is very good I've found. Quite inexpensive and always able to deliver the goods. Supports a huge range of PICs - if not almost all of them, 9 out of 10 stars from me.
<table><td></td><td>BK Precision 844A ALL THE WAY! Expensive, support several thousands of EEPROM type, brand, model, MicroController as well.
Device list... the latest on their site... not sure if it's the real updated one
http://www.bkprecision.com/download/...on/844Adev.txt
You buy one, and it fit everywhere, everyday, never fail. Look only the Microchip section... EEPROM, HCS, MCP, 10F,12F,16F,18F, Dspic... they are all there... just PIC24 is missing in the list</td></table>
If you just program PIC... maybe it's way too much, but the day you want to test-drive something else... you have it.
Around 4-5 years ago, i paid 500-600 CAN$ for that, still working, always new device, support ICSP and have a Ziff socket on the top...
Assuming 500$, it's about 100/year ('till now), 8.333/Moths, ~0.27$ /day.
Do the same for a PICKIT2 after ONLY 1 year...
40$/12/30=0.11$ come on, you spend more than that only in taxes when you buy a coffee...
As skimask said, include your wasted and lost time to build and debug one... no hard decision. I'm from another planet and old school... i know
Nice alternative, Of course PICKIT 2, Melabs EPIC, and maybe those from MikroElektronika... i like their EasyPIC, BigPIC, DsPIC dev board so far...
Last edited by mister_e; - 18th May 2007 at 01:15.
Steve
It's not a bug, it's a random feature.
There's no problem, only learning opportunities.
I think there are some good DIY alternatives around. But there's also some disappointing ones too. The KIT pictured below from DSE ain't too bad. Supports a few PICs and some EEPROMS. Comes with no software though. However it's portable - battery or plug pack operated, includes a ZIF socket and some nice power supply protection which makes it almost impossible to damage any PIC, but the problem still remains, you can buy something already made that's much more powerful for about the same money. The KIT would do much better @ $25 AUS
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<a href="http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.storefront/464d25960a477926273fc0a87f9c06e3/Product/View/K3610" target="_blank">Click here for more info</a>
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Last edited by T.Jackson; - 18th May 2007 at 06:11.
" Program all the latest 8-pin and 18-pin devices, including the PCI16F628A and PIC12F629. "
Must we understand it's a stoneage device ????
Alain
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Why insist on using 32 Bits when you're not even able to deal with the first 8 ones ??? ehhhhhh ...
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IF there is the word "Problem" in your question ...
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