12F629 Trouble

[mister_e]

While development kit and device programmer are now cheaper than they were before, i hope and i really think all of theses JDM and all other freebies will die.

PICKIT 2 is probably the best to begin. ~40$, and support most popular PICs. Actual supported device list can be found bellow
http://www.microchip.com/stellent/id...cName=en027813

Pretty bad MPLAB support, but nothing is perfect.

40 bucks for and hassle free programmer, it's nothing.

I no longer suggest Picstart, but ICD-2 or any Elnec (BK precision) programmer are really nice, support too.

[skimask]

Pretty bad MPLAB support, but nothing is perfect.

What do you mean by that? I haven't found anything that the PICKit2 and MPLAB, at least nothing worth mentioning...
Got any specifics that I might be missing?

[mister_e]

Yeah... maybe you need to have your eyes open and read carefully the MPLAB supported list link i'd posted, i'll help you a little bit
PICkit 2 MPLAB 7.51 & 7.52 Support

Debugging & Programming

* PIC12F683*
* PIC16F684*, 685*, 687*, 688*, 689*, 690*
* PIC16F883, 884, 886, 887
* PIC16F913, 914, 916, 917, 946

* These devices require an ICD header board to enable debugging with them.

Programming only

* PIC12F508, 509, 510
* PIC12F675
* PIC16F505, 506

now compare it to the PICKIT 2 standalone utility supported list... MPLAB one is nothing... But it allow ICD, while the standalone don't

[skimask]

Yeah... maybe you need to have your eyes open and read carefully the MPLAB supported list link i'd posted, i'll help you a little bit

now compare it to the PICKIT 2 standalone utility supported list... MPLAB one is nothing... But it allow ICD, while the standalone don't

I guess I still don't get it...are you emphasizing the Debugging part of the picture, the programming part, or the combination debugging/programming part?
And I thought we were up to MPLAB 7.60 now...

[mister_e]

Yup, MPLAB 7.60 still don't support ALL devices listed in the PICKIT 2 standalone application.

MPLAB 7.60 supported list

1 Device Support List
1.1 Debugger - Full Support

PIC16F690* PIC16F886

PIC16F883 PIC16F887

PIC16F884 PIC16F917
1.2 Debugger - Beta Support

PIC12F683*



PIC16F684* PIC16F88

PIC16F685* PIC16F913

PIC16F687* PIC16F914

PIC16F688* PIC16F916

PIC16F689* PIC16F946

PIC16F87
1.3 Programmer - Full Support

PIC12F510

PIC12F675



PIC16F506 PIC16F883

PIC16F684 PIC16F884

PIC16F690 PIC16F886

PIC16F87 PIC16F887

PIC16F88 PIC16F917
1.4 Programmer - Beta Support

PIC12F508

PIC12F509

PIC12F683



PIC16F505 PIC16F913

PIC16F685 PIC16F914

PIC16F687 PIC16F916

PIC16F688 PIC16F946

PIC16F689

FAR FAR away of the standalone... right?

No complaint at all, i don't use MPLAB often.. even PICKIT 2 is my spare and on-the road programmer. BK Precision 844A is my favourite one... PIC, AVR, Texas, Zilog... list is long

[skimask]

Yup, MPLAB 7.60 still don't support ALL devices listed in the PICKIT 2 standalone application.
MPLAB 7.60 supported list
FAR FAR away of the standalone... right?
No complaint at all, i don't use MPLAB often.. even PICKIT 2 is my spare and on-the road programmer. BK Precision 844A is my favourite one... PIC, AVR, Texas, Zilog... list is long

Ok, I think I get what you're saying now...
I have yet to use the PICKIT2 'as part of' MPLAB, I've always used the standalone app totally seperate.

[mister_e]

YUP!

Knowing you're not using MPLAB or any other IDE... i understand why it's sooo hard to understand for your, small brained guy

Certainely not because my english is not perfect