Help with HPWM on 18f6520

[Andy Wood]

Hello,

My first post here so don't be too hard on me!!

I am currently playing with the HPWM command on the 18F6520. It works ok on CCP1 and CCP2 but I cannot get it to work on CCP 3,4 or 5.

I have tried a few different setup configurations, however, at present I am stuck!

Any help or ideas would be greatly apprciated.

Andy

[skimask]

Hello,

My first post here so don't be too hard on me!!

I am currently playing with the HPWM command on the 18F6520. It works ok on CCP1 and CCP2 but I cannot get it to work on CCP 3,4 or 5.

I have tried a few different setup configurations, however, at present I am stuck!

Any help or ideas would be greatly apprciated.

Andy

Can't see no code, can't give no help.

[Andy Wood]

Thanks for the reply Skimask.

Here is a copy of the code:

main:

HPWM 1,127,245

HPWM 2,127,245

HPWM 3,127,245

HPWM 4,127,245

HPWM 5,127,245

GOTO main

When using a 5v supply, this produces 2.5v on CCP channels 1 and 2, and 0v on CCP channels 3,4 and 5 (which are on port G).

I also tried adding TRISG = 0 at the start, to force CCP 3,4 & 5 to outputs but nothing changed.

Andy

[skimask]

Thanks for the reply Skimask.
Here is a copy of the code:
main:
HPWM 1,127,245:HPWM 2,127,245:HPWM 3,127,245:HPWM 4,127,245:HPWM 5,127,245:GOTO main
When using a 5v supply, this produces 2.5v on CCP channels 1 and 2, and 0v on CCP channels 3,4 and 5 (which are on port G).
I also tried adding TRISG = 0 at the start, to force CCP 3,4 & 5 to outputs but nothing changed.
Andy

That's it? No defines, don't know how fast the oscillator is runng, no registers set up, no nothing?
Read the manual, try again...

[Bruce]

HPWM only works with CCP1 & CCP2. Beyond that, you'll need to manually configure hardware PWM.

[Andy Wood]

Hello Bruce,

Thanks for the reply. I have read the manual and cannot find where it says HPWM is only for CCP1 and CCP2. Maybe this is an undocumented "feature"?

Anyway, I do appreciate your response - I have been pulling my hair out! Thank you for your input.

Andy

[skimask]

Hello Bruce, Thanks for the reply. I have read the manual and cannot find where it says HPWM is only for CCP1 and CCP2. Maybe this is an undocumented "feature"? Anyway, I do appreciate your response - I have been pulling my hair out! Thank you for your input.
Andy

I think this is one of those times where...it's not that you can't find where it says HPWM is only for CCP1 and CCP2, but...Where does it state in the manual that HPWM can be used on any available PWM module? And I guess the answer is...you don't...therefore, you can't. I never thought about it myself, but the facts are the facts.
If PBP will compile HPWM 1 and HPWM 2 but not HPWM 3 - 5, then there ya go...

[Andy Wood]

Hello Skimask,

The confusing part is it compiled without listing any errors! it is just one of those things sent to try us I guess.....

Anyway, I have learned some more and that is what it is all about. Thanks again for your input.

Andy

[skimask]

Hello Skimask,

The confusing part is it compiled without listing any errors! it is just one of those things sent to try us I guess.....

Anyway, I have learned some more and that is what it is all about. Thanks again for your input.

Andy

I just looked at the pbppic18.lib file in the PBP directory and found this:

;************************************************* ***************
;* Default Hpwm values *
;************************************************* ***************

ifndef CCP1_REG ; CCP1 pin port
CCP1_REG EQU PORTC
endif
ifndef CCP1_BIT ; CCP1 pin bit
CCP1_BIT EQU 2
endif
ifdef CCP2CON
ifndef CCP2_REG ; CCP2 pin port
CCP2_REG EQU PORTC
endif
ifndef CCP2_BIT ; CCP2 pin bit
CCP2_BIT EQU 1
endif
endif

I don't know if the compiler will accept it, but I'm wondering if adding:

ifndef CCP3_REG ; CCP3 pin port
CCP3_REG EQU PORTG
endif
ifndef CCP1_BIT ; CCP3 pin bit
CCP3_BIT EQU 0
endif.......................................

and so on for channel 4 and 5 to that file...would enable the PWM modules for those channels.

This is above me without a usable 6520 (or anything else in that family) to play with at the moment.

DT, Mr_E? Any thoughts?

Also, you might want to check the chip's revision. The early 6520/6620/6720/8520/8620/8720 chips didn't like to run above 4mhz under certain conditions relating to code (I had a few of those, run all day at 4mhz, didn't like to run at 6mhz). Might want to check the errata sheets and see if you've got one. Of course, if you've bought it recently, or the date code is less than a year or two old, I wouldn't worry about it.

[Darrel Taylor]

You would also need to change the HPWM routine itself (also in the PBPPIC18.LIB file).

Just took a quick look, doesn't look like it would be too hard.
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[skimask]

You would also need to change the HPWM routine itself (also in the PBPPIC18.LIB file).

Just took a quick look, doesn't look like it would be too hard.
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Sure does look easy enough. Only 9 lines of assembler and add a few more assembler directives to enable the other 3 channels on those PICs.
And again, if I had a spare 65/66/67/85/86/87..20 laying around, I'd be all over that.
Another mod to send into MeLabs for the next update.
(Are the guys at MeLabs listening in on these last couple of great mods that DT/Mr_E have come up with in the last few weeks or so?)

[Charles Linquis]

I have found that the HPWM function in PBP is fairly limiting - 32.767Khz is the maximum frequency.

It is quite easy to set up the PWM registers directly. I use the following.
With a 40Mhz oscillator. This gives 158Khz PWM frequency with 8 bits of
resolution. You can get up to 10 bits of resolution at lower PWM frequencies.
Although this is for channel 1, I have set up the other channels similarly.


CCPR1L = %00010000
CCPR1H = %00000000 ' Initialize to 0, PWM register

T2CON = %00000100 ' Timer 2, Prescale 1
CCP1CON= %00001100 ' Set up for PWM

PR2 = $3F ' 8 bits of resolution at 158Khz


CCPR1L = PWMVal >> 2 'Upper 6 bits (of the 8) go here
CCP1CON.5=PWMVal.1 'Lower 2 here
CCP1CON.4=PWMVal.0

[Darrel Taylor]

(Are the guys at MeLabs listening in on these last couple of great mods that DT/Mr_E have come up with in the last few weeks or so?)

I hope not!
They already don't like me, now I'm messing with their compiler.

But we already know they don't come here.

And for the HPWM ...
Not sure Andy's ready to start modifying system files yet, ... or not.
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[Darrel Taylor]

And if using Charles' method.

Be sure to download mister_e's PicMultiCalc.
http://www.mister-e.org/pages/utilitiespag.html
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[Ioannis]

I hope not!
They already don't like me, now I'm messing with their compiler...

Unless you 've put a bomb at their office, I can't understand why a brilliant programmer, that is using the PBP to its maximum, is not amiable to Melabs.

If it is true, I will think a lot about next upgrade!

Ioannis

[skimask]

But we already know they don't come here.
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I was not aware of that. Pity...all this good info, gone to waste...ok, not really. You figure after awhile, some of us are going to end up with a sort of a next-gen PBP without MeLabs support.

Unless you 've put a bomb at their office, I can't understand why a brilliant programmer, that is using the PBP to its maximum, is not amiable to Melabs.
If it is true, I will think a lot about next upgrade!
Ioannis

That goes double here!

[Andy Wood]

Hello Everybody,

First of all, thank you for all the great responses. I now have PWM working great on all 5 channels by addressing the registers directly, as suggested by Charles. As an added bonus, the PWM resolution is 10bit.

As Darrel said, it is probably a bit "advanced" for me to start modifying system/library files at this stage.

The 18F6520 also has 12 analog inputs. Are there any "gotchas" or limits on the number of channels when using the ADCIN command?

Andy

[skimask]

The 18F6520 also has 12 analog inputs. Are there any "gotchas" or limits on the number of channels when using the ADCIN command?
Andy

Check that same file I listed above pbppic18.lib
I'm not at the house so I can't check it myself.
Search thru the file for ADCIN. Even though you're not comfortable modifying the file, you might be able to get some clues as to how many channels ADCIN will handle. The PBP manual isn't specific enough.