the original message was not supposed to have a thumbs down
there has been many people that have helped along the way
however there has been those that give nothing but negetive comments
dont need that if someone does not like my posting ignor it that simple

perhaps I should explain better how I got to this point.I have worked in electronics ddc control systems all my life. when I retired I started playing with microcontroller to build projects. started with parallax. they have a great product excellent documentation and support. got me hooked. however the cost of chips is very high for someone that likes to build. so I went looking for something else. found pbp and was told it was just as good and after spending considerable on the program I would be able to do the same thing. however and if someone else reads this beware I WAS NOT TOLD I would have to learn a 300 pg manual for each chip. As well as terms that are totally unknown to me , did not want to do this therfore the posts asking for the correct usage for that chip.also i would like to say my programs work fine just can't seem to get the registors and all the other things down had someone warned me I would never have gone this route. I do thank those that have taken the time to help without the scarasim. there has got to be somthing in the middle for us hackers.