Thanks for the quick response,

I've tried this on a 866 chip as well using its internal oscillator with the same results.

Are you saying that until the chip's oscillator settles or the Brown Out Detect Power Up Timer (which I am using) starts the pic that these pins are going to be high no matter what?

My issue is I am driving a mosfet with these pins and the split second startup issue causes the mos to conduct which is not desirable if I can help it.

Is there anyway to force the port definition to be the first thing that happens in the code other then making it the first item in the pbp code?

Thanks again