In case any one wants to look, here is the schematic and "manual" seeing how I am having trouble with anything tonight, (the pullups do not exist on the board), Maybe I should give this one a break for a bit.

No, I don't have any of those chips. I was hoping to be able to get this to work on a premade board. Seems like it should be possible. One thing I don't like, with the ready made code provided by melab, It takes more time to chase down what is ( or is not) going on.

Does it make sense that if I can use microchips USB bootloader, the hardware side of things are ok?