Can It Be this SIMPLE? (the Off-Topic continuation)

[f_lez]

Hi,

From "my" Bank:

Prices and Earnings
http://www.ubs.com/1/ShowMedia/ubs_c...2&name=eng.pdf

Best regards,

Luciano

Now thats a definitive answer, but I dont know if its right........

It puts a big circle over all of europe as though its all the same and country to country its a real see saw.

My house (mine! I rent) is worth about 120,000 but I can buy the same in bulgaria for about 16,000.

Our wages are higher than poland, hence I live in a city where a year ago I would not have see anyone from poland, now I drive around and pass about 10 polish cars a day full of our countries new labor force (if you want to work for less than the minimum wage...) (Oh and all our taxi's are now becoming turkish driven, but thats because they will pay more to rent the car because they can give up more of their income)

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I'd just like to add I'm not knocking others, its just an economic statement, of a situation created by our loving leaders foreign policy on european freedoms....(but I cant go work in poland, as I could not afford it.(But I know where to go for an holiday if I want to be treat well for a week at the cost of a dayout over here!)

[sayzer]

... Our wages are higher than poland, hence I live in a city where a year ago I would not have see anyone from poland, now I drive around and pass about 10 polish cars a day full of our countries new labor force (if you want to work for less than the minimum wage...) (Oh and all our taxi's are now becoming turkish driven, but thats because they will pay more to rent the car because they can give up more of their income)...

In 1970s, Germany needed cheap labor force due to Dutch people who did not want to do dirty jobs. Thus, doors were wide opened to Turkish workers mostly from east part and mostly from villages in which mostly the people had no education at all.

Those Turkish workers did do dirty jobs for Dutch people for years, and Dutch people treated them with almost no respect as if Turkish workers were not even human.

However, as the years passed by, many Turkish workers became business owners in Germany, established successful companies in years, even had brand recognitions, and hired Dutch people to do professional jobs for them as well as dirty jobs.

Now, in connection with the comment above, I would like to state an old Turkish saying.
“One experience is more valuable then one thousand advices”.

So, pls take this old saying into consideration.
Those Polish people you see around may become your boss in a few years. Keep good relations with them.



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[f_lez]

So, pls take this old saying into consideration.
Those Polish people you see around may become your boss in a few years. Keep good relations with them.

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My sons last boss _was_ polish! (a cardboard factory)

Well I dont know if thats a real old saying but its makes sense etc, butI do know that amongst the taxi drivers in our city a few eyebrows are being raised because its upsetting the economy of it ('the job')

Our area has a restriction on the number of taxi's, currently 158(app), if you want one, you have to ask someone who has one to sell you the licence, even though they are not transferable, a workaround for that is you give him the money, he makes you his partner, then he retires, ergo your the only partner the licence is yours.

If you cant afford to do that, you can 'rent', IE work for the licence owner and pay him out of your takings, current rent about 160ukp p week on earnings of about 500. subtract other expenses you take home about 200-250 ukp per week - so an average wage

The influx of labor has ment that they want in on this job,and are willingly paying rent of 250ukp per week!

Maybe they think that was the going rate, but as you can see its caused licence owners to /all/ want 250ukp p week or hit the road!

Some older drivers just wont pay the newer inflated rate, so are being forced out of a job, most who have done it for the last 20 years, and wont get work anywhere else!

Another sour point is to be a driver you have to have a police check to say you are not a mass murderer / child molester etc.

If I was checked tomorrow the check would go back at least 10 years, if I was in this country a year, the check would only go back a year..........

Makes no difference on nationality, you can kill 5 children in your country, get out of jail, and come to england and work on the school bus.........

Now can you see its not a race thing that some of us are annoyed at, its the procedures that our leaders put us through but not others.....

I wont go on about this anymore its got really off topic!

[Luciano]

Hi f_lez,

What's that?

http://paiz.gov.pl/index/?id=de7f47e...1ababdf6bc58e7


Best regards,

Luciano

[Mike_Lynch]

Well this thread certainly took a STRANGE turn. It started off with my asking if a piece
of PBP code I posted was correct / viable, I got a couple of replies that hinted the
code might be workable with slight modifications. Some people suggested the use
of other methods to obtain the required results I was looking for, easier, cheaper,
less complex, all well and good, THANKS.

Then I made the mistake (?) of shooting off my mouth about the price of GAS (Petrol)
and THAT initiated a survey on “transportation fuel cost” (Gas / Petrol per Gal. / Liter)
which in turn appears to have sparked a Geo-Political / Economic discussion among some.

Going back to the TRANSPORTATION issue, SOME peoples perceptions / beliefs in the USA,
are that the slow progression of alternate fuel vehicles is in most part due to the Oil Companies
grip on the political infrastructure here. Those companies have a stake in keeping people
dependent on Crude Oil due to their not having developed much in the way of alternative
energy sources. I just heard the other day that Brazil had obtained their goal
of becoming transportation energy self sufficient.
(http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/10/wo...partner=rssnyt )

What is the “alternate energy & transportation” status where you are?
Alternate Fuel, Solar / Solar Electric, Gas (Petrol) / Electric, Hydrogen Fuel Cell, etc, . . .
Don’t forget to tell where you are.

[sayzer]

...which in turn appears to have sparked a Geo-Political / Economic discussion among some.

Going back to the TRANSPORTATION issue, SOME peoples perceptions / beliefs in the USA,are that the slow progression of alternate fuel vehicles is....

Welcome to among "some" Mike_Lynch!

[Luciano]

Hi,

Sugar Cane in Brazil = Uncontrolled Deforestation

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In Italy we just use small cars.

Example:
http://www.fiatpunto.com

Best regards,

Luciano