Just as a side issue, I plugged my ICEPIC2 back in, and I got garbage out again, on checking I find that ICEPIC2 uses its own clock of 4Mhz, (in my defence I got this secondhand so I do not have the manual) 4Mhz is the frequency I normally use on my PIC projects, so it has not been an issue before. Anyway just changed the crystal to 4Mhz, changed the settings in my code, run ICEPIC2 again and everything is working fine, so I am off and running, thanks to all.
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