try to answer the programmer is a velleman and works great with the onboard sockets but does not have a 40 pin thus the icsp the boardf has some circuirty to the vpp pin and like i sai it works fine on other chips
as for as the errors i get is verfify errors but even when i try to write a small program like blink i get no errors but hte chip is not operating any thing else get errors
the crystal is 20 with 22pf to vss




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