Hello Billy,


Billy >>Dwayne thanks for your inputs here my call is WA1HMW extra .<<

I am also a Extra. Though I wish the tests were like they used to be....( I guess I am a old die hard....but oh well...)

Billy>> About the changes in C++ well it was going thru bits and piece changes in ealier versuions but com in the late 90's ISO meetings et al all have to conform the ISO agreements.Like you I write all my code in earlier versions of Turbo C++ and change syntax( small header changes) to conform to ISO.<<

<chuckle> Its because we know the advantages of keeping things backward compatible <g>

Billy>>About PB & PBP all I am saying Dwayne is if they were developing a new product ( Compiler) basically using the Basic Language geared to Microcontrollers then why they did not make a common language for both versions. <<


To my understanding, they are very much common between them. The main differences are how they access the ports, how they access memory (especially above the 2k limit), and other things.

Since I did not write PBP, I am going guessing on this ok? But my guess is, they used "Classes" as in C++. and when PBP was formed they may have used different names and passing variables, but used the same functions such as peek and poke. That way, the code did not change, but the methodology of calling the routine did. (if they wanted to change it). Like a Class within a Class doing a "Inheretance". Then it would make somewhat sense to me on how they "progressed" to PBP. I have to admit, I would hate to "backward Pedal" to PB from PBP!.

LIke I say, I am very new to these PICS. I have heard about them for probably15 years, and I chose the PHilips chips over them. But with the Price of these babies, and the Flash memory... Wow! Love it. I can make mistakes a heck of a lot faster! <g>.

I just got through buying PBP. Mainly because I liked the memory management, and kept my learning curve much lower. I started out using ASM, but there were so many minute details, I decided maybe saving time and going to PBP. So I went to compilespot.com. I tried out the PBP (but it was limited to 900 bytes of code). I was able to try out many different things.. enough to where I bought the package.

I still find myself writing my code in the "Basics", because I can trust myself more than the compiler <g>. I also have more control of what I want to accomplish....(though I probably waste more time troubleshooting things <g>).

You ever run Sats? I used to run AO10 when it was up. Did a little EME. Did a little SSTV, packet, But my favorite was CW. When I was in prime, I ran 45 WPM...I can probably run 20 now. Who knows... I may have chatted with you at some point in the past 30 years <g>. I would have to check my logbook.

Dwayne (PS Great Pleasure chatting with you)