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    Hi,

    With a current of 25mA the power dissipation will be less than 1 watt.

    30V AC - 1.2V (rectifier loss) = 28.8V
    28.8V x 1.41 = 40.608V DC
    40.608V - 5V = 35.608V
    35.608V x 0.025A = 0.8902 W

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    Not in this project but maybe one day you will need a voltage
    regulator with an input voltage up to 60V.

    http://www.national.com/pf/LM/LM317HV.html

    Best regards,

    Luciano

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    Default Its getting HOT!

    Well estimated 1watt loss can heat LM317HV quite a bit.
    I think that in the price of that regulator U can buy 2MKT capacitors
    easily (Atleast in this part of world )
    Please make calculations as follows:
    30V ac = 30 x 1.41 = 42.42 volts DC
    - 1.2volts drop = 41.22 volts - 5volts output = 36.22V
    x .025A = 0.9055 Watts.

    One needs big heatsink for this.

    The purpose of circuit is to get lower voltage without transformer
    and not much regulated voltage is required.

    When required I will certainly use HV regulator if called for.
    otherwise I will use switching one to make it "cool" !

    Thanks a lot for suggestion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psdayama

    One needs big heatsink for this.
    Your statement is not accurate.

    1 Watt of power dissipation without heat sink is possible with a LM317HV/TO220.
    Below you can see how to calculate the maximum allowable power dissipation without heat sink.

    Best regards,

    Luciano

    Code:
    How to calculate the maximum allowable power 
    dissipation without heat sink:
    
    
    PD MAX = TjMAX − TaMAX
             _____________
                 Rja
    
    PD MAX = Maximum Power Dissipation (Watt)
    
    
    TjMAX = maximum junction temperature (°C) 
    For the LM317HV the operating junction temperature range is 0°C to +125°C.
    
    
    TaMAX = maximum ambient air temperature (°C) 
    Room temperature or temperature inside enclosure.
    
    
    Rja= thermal resistance from junction to ambient without heat sink (°C/W) 
    For the LM317HV/TO220 is 50 °C/W.
    
    
    Example ambient air temperature 45°C: 
    
    125°C − 45°C
    __________    =  1.6 Watt 
       50°C/W
    
    
    With an ambient temperature of 45°C, the maximum power dissipation 
    of the LM317HV / TO-220 without heat sink is 1.6 Watt.
    
    With an ambient temperature of 75°C, the maximum power dissipation 
    of the LM317HV / TO-220 without heat sink is 1 Watt.

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