Job Placement Service / Tech Support

[fanie]

I'm always amused at people's attitude that everyone else owes them a living. There's no such thing, or I've growed up the wrong way. It also amazes me that if someone loses a job they jump right in and get another one !

The world is full of opportunities, mostly we're too lazy to look for them, but those that do does flourich. Which is why you see adds all the time.. a way of finding another buyer or job to do.

Do what others won't, so you can have what others don't ! I bet if you do a little summary of how you really spent your time and what you do you'll get an eye opener. Next time you see someone so "lucky" to "have it all" think for a change - that guy did something to get there.

I was also a jobber a long time ago, I just got fed up with making someone else rich and having to have to listen to their crap and them decide what I'm worth. I decided the little grey matter I have could be put to better use.

A little planning also goes a long way, especially with a pen and paper. (Another new set of tools here !)

It does however boils down to one thing - ATTITUDE !

[mugwamp]

fanie doesn't list a location but I'm betting he's somewhere in the US because of his typical American attitude. I re-checked Darrel's original post and nowhere does he say or even imply that the world owes him a living. I get really tired of some people in this country always looking down their nose at others and saying they're in the situation they're in because they don't try hard enough or they have a bad attitide. People are often out of work for no fault of their own, especially in the technical field. The last thing anybody in that situation needs is a holier-than-thou attitude from some yahoo who thinks he's got everything figured out.

[schu4647]

American here and I agree with you. We will all be needing job placement soon unless you speak spanish or chinese. I say good for the french for standing up for themselves on the whole job security issue. They may lie down for any invaders, but they love there job security.

[fanie]

'The last thing anybody in that situation needs is a holier-than-thou attitude from some yahoo who thinks he's got everything figured out.'

I've been where most have not, I don't think I have that attitude and I didn't claim I have anything worked out. It's true, things happen to people, the idea would be not to make the same mistake twice ! but most are so clever about anything and everything you cannot tell them anything. I know lots of people complaining their butts of about their problems (in most cases they caused for themselves), but they sit in front of the electronic income reducer every night calling it 'family time' , will not do anything to improve themselves and the one time they work a bit overtime they expect a medal and residual income for life.

In my opinion, if you expect someone else to 'give you a job' yes you do think they owe you a living. If your brother has a lot of money and you're broke does it mean he must give you any ? Well, that's the attitude a lot of people have !

Statistics showed that less than one in a hundred will do something for themselves. The rest just prefer to stay in their comfort zone and float with the tide.

[schu4647]

Lets see those studies. Where is your data?

[Pic_User]

Because this is posted in the "PBP Wish List" section of the forums, it would seem we are welcome to "WISH" for anything that might be desired, by one or more user.

A Job Placement Service, does not seem like such a stretch. I think the negative reaction may possibly spring from the use of the word "free". Maybe the word "placement" is too strong.

It is obvious that you meant, if we buy PBP attend a "PICBASIC Pro training center", and pass a certification of sorts, maybe the meLabs company could help. Sort of like a "dating service". Set up to join companies with the need and programmers with the skill. Win - Win.

This would be a tremendous asset to small companies looking for talent. What could be better for everyone.

If a local company ran a PBP ad in the "help wanted" section of our local newspaper, for a year, I think there would never be one qualified answer. Any answers, would most likely be from, the same people that think data sheets are there to learn the pin-out and discard.

The small local company's only answer, would be to hire a "full blown" engineer. An "entry level engineer that is just beginning. One that has spent years learning Maxwell's equations and all the facets of electrical engineering. A new engineer, that will have to come in and learn the specifics of the small company's needs. Most likely starting very near entry level of microcontroller programming. His salary, could possibly, be near to the company's last years profit!

How about if ("PBP Wish List"):
That company, could hire someone that was up to speed with programming. Someone that could work with the company's existing electrical assembly department. Someone that could roll up their sleeves, help with the work load, AND contribute to improving and modernizing existing designs. Someone, to help the designers know what is possible, for future design. Not a coat and tie wearing specialist. Someone that could "pull their own weight".

How would that company know that a prospect had a level of programming skill that would be adequate for their needs. Hiring the traditional engineer, at a pay scale higher than the president of the small local company, would be out of the question. Why not a central clearing house of qualified prospects.

With that said:
I think the above is way beyond the scope of meLabs' abilities or desires. Someone (of us!) should start a WEB school for PBP. A real qualification filter. The best candidate so far would be Darrel. He has the HTML and the PIC knowledge to start this up. (and the free time) DynamoBen, could be included.

An example of this general (dating service) idea is the "board houses" page on Eagle's Printed Circuit Board site. There are small advertisements and links to PCB houses that accept Eagle file directly. This helps the board houses AND helps the Eagle users. It even helps Eagle directly because it shows prospective buyers the support available.

-Adam-

[schu4647]

Here is a stretch. Go to college and get an electrical engineering degree. Then you can do this all you want. It is not as fun when it becomes your job. It is like a hooker that doesn't service her husband when she gets home.