Thanks Dave, so in EPIC language that means choose "input" ?

When I chose "reset" in the Epic software and had a 4.7K to V+, the PIC wouldn't function at all.

I chose "input" and it works.

So, will the chip reset regardless of which I choose?

I am going to look at my breadboard this morning and hardwire the SEROUT/SERIN to see if it's an infrared problem.....don't know why I didn't think of that yesterday.

It's called middle aged brain atrophy.

It has to be something simple....maybe in my chip setup. I've always used the 16C65B OTP part....this 16F628 is new to me.