12F509 programmer

[Michael]

I didn't see the 12F509 listed as chip that I can use with P16pro40 programmer under winpicprog or the picall software I'm using now.

Could anyone verify whether it definetly can be used?

If not, what programmer would you suggest?

Thanks.

[Archilochus]

If not, what programmer would you suggest?

Thanks.

The EPIC or serial/USB programmers from MELabs do the F509

Arch

[Michael]

Always something--I may try another chip rather than shell out another 100 bucks.

By the way, what happens when you want to program a surface mount device?

Build your own adapter or something?

Is there such a thing as a special programming socket for surface mount parts?

[Archilochus]

I'd just do ICSP for surface mount parts.

BTW - with PicAll you're supposed to be able to add new own chips by modifying the DEVICE.INI file - I've never tried it though.


It seems that almost all of the 'free' software for the various PIC16PRO type programmers has been abandoned by the developers - and no new device types are being added.

Arch

[bbarney]

I've asked Nigel at WinPicProg if he's going to support those chips, just waiting for an answer.here's a link
http://www.winpicprog.co.uk/bbs/index.php

[bartman]

Check this thread for two simple ideas for programming a SMD with a DIP programmer. I had the same question a few weeks ago.

Bart

http://www.picbasic.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=3014

[Michael]

Thanks BBarney...I'll keep an eye out.

Go figure, the guy at Microchip told me that the 12F509 would be a good choice for a basic 8pin that is "popular and readily available".

And some are saying they never heard of it.

Maybe it's a recent release.....I don't keep up like you guys do. I'm just now trying to move from OTP to flash.

[PJALM]

Try this programmer:

http://216.239.37.104/translate_c?hl...ial_s%26sa%3DG

It is very easy to make and works with allmost all current pics including the dsPic series.

Use it with WinPic800, they suggest IC-Prog but IC-Prog hasn't been updated in a very long time and dosn't look like she is supporting it anymore. In winpic800 setup chose the Pablin programmer.

[bbarney]

Nigel say's he'll get some chip's and have a look at them but right now winpicprog won't do them.so we'll just have to wait till he get's some chip's

[mister_e]

i use often 12F508, 12F509 again. They're release since 1-2 year now.

MAYBE you can use PIC12C508 in you programmer software... MAYBE.... worth a try.

[Michael]

You know, this 12F509 has an internal oscillator....is this a problem for most of the programmers?

Like I say, I don't keep up with all the part numbers and not a really frequent picbasic user.

I think I should look at another part number that is compatible with my P16pro40 and forget the 12F509.

Could anyone suggest a low cost, (2 to 2.50 neighborhood in quantity), basic PIC that is anywhere from 8pins up (actually the more I/O the better, so 14 to 18pin is no problem at all).

Nothing fancy, just need some I/O pins to work with and an external xtal or rc.

A flash part.....still vailable in a dip packeage and definetly COMPATIBLE WITH THE P16pro40?

THANKS kindly for any part numbers....I'm just going to send these 12F509 back.

[Archilochus]

The 16F628 is a nice basic chip with a fair amount of funtions and resonably low price (a bit more than the $2 range). 18 pin and programs fine in my home-made Pic16Pro programmer with either Picall or WinPicProg.

Arch

[bbarney]

you could try 12f675,winpicprog does it and it's 8 pin

[Michael]

Thanks folks....I think I'll get that 16F628A....only 1.65 for 100pc and 16 I/O to boot.

I see it on the list of chips for my picall and p16pro so that's even better.

Appreciate it.

[PJALM]

Good choice, I use the 16F628A in several projects using the internal osc and it works great.

You should consider either making or buying a more universal programmer as well. It will come in very handy.