
Originally Posted by
Melanie
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As for your buyline... ""You may kill Turks but You cannot defeat them"... King Jan Sobieski of Poland would disagree with that statement (two examples; Chocim 1673, Vienna 1683).
ahh vienna. it's too normal to you dont know. The first vienna trying we stopped it because we didnt come to take vienna. we came to say "we are here" and winter had started.
the second vienna trying it's very tragical and comic. our famous "sadrazam" Merzifonlu Kara Mustafa Pasa wanted to show himself to the world. So he tried but of course weak Osmanli had a very bad defeat.
I never meant "we're champion nobody can beat us".Of course we lost but if anybody searched our real history, most of loses are because of technological and although we winned we lost in front of the table.
Kalimera my friend but and thanks for help very much. you added 1821 but this history because you are orthodox and russia helped you very much. Think about one think : "You were free about relic." It's an Islamic farz to us "Everyone is free"
Finally i must add some dates 1453,1920-1923,1970 (Cyprus)
Thanks for all help ı am new at pic and this forum so sorry to make a new topic and i am very happy to discuss history with europe
(we dont need EU)
"You may kill Turks but You cannot defeat them" Napoleon
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