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  1. - 5th January 2006, 23:22 #1
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    Melanie

    Thanks for the response and all noted.
    The reason i was looking around for another solution is having invested 20k+ and 2 years of my spare time in a pic project I no longer have the time to learn the finer points of PBP as my main business demands all my time, I was looking for the easy way out, the magic solution as it were.

    I know there are no quick fixes but it never hurts to ask.
    So the next question would be where do i find a good freelance and trustworthy pic progammer?



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    Rob, there are many competent people on this list - it doesn't take too much effort to discover who they are. The professionals will charge MONEY (ie those green crinkly drinking vouchers usually found with a picture of some past or present head of state on them). The quality of the finished job will be proportionate to what you pay... (find John Ruskins' 1819-1900 quote on the subject)...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_...siness_Balance

    Charles, I don't publicly advertise who I work for, or use the forum for commercial advantage.
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    I agree that Proton may have a lot of built-in functions but i don't think it can even come close to the performance and stability of PBP. So far PBP is the only Basic Compiler I have found that supports the Microchip USB Bootloader so for this reason alone I stick to using it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Martin
    Melanie
    So the next question would be where do i find a good freelance and trustworthy pic progammer?
    Microchip PICSTART
    Microchip ICD-2
    MELABS EPIC
    BK Precision 844a (Same as one Elnec model i can't remind)

    The above are really great, the only one i don't have is the Melabs. BUT i heard many good comments on. Look that PICSTART is on the last production anyway... many USB PIC are not yet supported... as now. Seems ICD-2 the new way to go.

    BK Precision (or ELNEC) is a universal one. Usefull if you need to program/read some EEPROM and you don't want to spend time to build your own OR you don't trust any JDM or else close-to-be-freebies like that (PONYPROG, IC-PROG with their XYZ interface)

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    Choosing the easy way is great... of course time=money. But i always prefer to trust only one person... myself. That way, if there's any problem, i'm the only one to blame.

    Also by using the easy way or the-pre-cooked one serve on a plate will never ever make you understand what you do. Yeah it will work, but in case not... how will you solve the problem?

    Just few things to think about. Not meant to be offendant for some sensitive OX and BOT user here
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    I use the Microchip PicKit2 to do ICSP Programming. It works and its a very good price. You can make an adapter to do the programming of the chips directly.

    You can get it here.

    http://www.microchip.com/stellent/id...cName=en023805
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    Hi,

    My personal opinion, if all of your code is currently in PBP and you haven't had any problems, you might as well stay with it. Especially, if you already have a bunch of tried and true routines.
    It's not worth the trouble to convert your programs over to Proton.

    However, if you're just starting out, I'd recommend PDS.
    I've had no problems with either product mind you, but I just like being able to have an open dialog with the creator of the product and having my input count. Also, the free updates are pretty cool too. I just read a thread on this forum where, in order to get his code to work, some guy needed to upgrade from version 2.45 of PBP to version 2.46 for a fix. Fortunately, PDS users don't have to pay for fixes (no flame wars please).

    Again, I've personally never had any problems with PBP. All of my programs worked well. I just found development with PDS was a lot smoother and faster. At least that was my experience. By the way, I used to program in assembly using MPLAB, so I've earned the right to go the easy route.



    Take care everyone.

    Regards,
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    Chances are that your upgrade are free. Regarding the 2 latest upgrade of the other compiler wich i remove the name in the following quote.
    Quote Originally Posted by What's New in...
    Additions, amendments and fixes made in version 3.1.9 of the XXXXXX+ Compiler. (11th January 2006)

    ADDITIONS
    None

    AMENDMENTS
    None

    FIXES
    None

    Note. This version has been created in order to overwrite a corrupted file download of version 3.1.8.

    Additions, amendments and fixes made in version 3.1.8 of the XXXXXX+ Compiler. (4th January 2006)
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    .
    .
    .
    FIXES
    Fixed recognition of PAUSE, PAUSEUS, DEBUG, DEBUGIN, and LCDOUT for PBP compatability.
    .
    .
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    .
    Who wants to pay for something corrupted? Oh well, at least it's now PBP compatible
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    Code:
    pause 500
pauseus 500
lcdout $fe,1,"hello"
    <img src=http://www.picbasic.co.uk/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=731&d=1137325991>
    Attached Images Attached Images  
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  9. - 15th January 2006, 17:51 #9
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    Hi,

    Well, I guess this is a case of one person seeing the glass as half full and the other seeing it as half empty. I choose to see it as half full, but to each his own.

    Check out this link:
    http://www.melabs.com/support/upgrade.htm

    Look at the list of fixes in version 2.46.
    If I'm not mistaken, each PBP user needs to pay to get those fixes.
    Proton users don't have to pay for bug fixes, nor added features.

    When we DO notice a bug, it's generally taken care of in short order.
    I, personally, would rather have that. That's just my opinion anyway.

    Regards,
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