What is the dv/dt side of an inductor


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    Question What is the dv/dt side of an inductor

    I just noticed that the XAL1010 inductor has a "recommended polarity".

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    Would that be side A or B?

    Couldn't find a meaningful description in google.


    (please say B ... please say B ... please say B ... please say B ... )
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    Sorry, A...

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    On B side in ideal condition you have 0dv/dt. Because that is constant DC voltage smoothed by capacitor. in reality, you have some ripple...
    On side A you have in one moment Vin, in next momement you have 0V. So there is source of your EMI. If you must choose right side of inductor, then you have much more problems in your design. Layout is 1000 times more important than side of inductor.
    Just don't make terible PBC, and you don't have to worry about it... Especialy if your product is not going for certification...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pedja089 View Post
    ...Just don't make terible PBC, and you don't have to worry about it... Especialy if your product is not going for certification...

    I'm not going for certification. But I would have liked to put all the chances on my side for the lowest ripple this design can produce.

    I assume CoilCraft didn't put that comment for nothing. I just have no idea if having it backwards costs me 1-2mV in the ripples, or 8-10mV.

    I already have ideas for v3, so I'll be sure to have properly then.
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    Default Re: What is the dv/dt side of an inductor

    its about EMI not ripple
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    Default Re: What is the dv/dt side of an inductor

    ripple would be the same in either direction.

    As shielded inductor, this has to do with EMI only.

    Do not worry.

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    I think it depends on the load at Vout. If Vin is a battery input there shouldn't be a large dV/dt on the battery side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rsocor01 View Post
    I think it depends on the load at Vout. If Vin is a battery input there shouldn't be a large dV/dt on the battery side.
    It's a desktop USB application; never going to run on batteries.

    The circuit is designed (by Texas Instruments) to handle wall adapters from 7V to 16V (datasheet for TPS56637 says it can handle up to 28V, but that wasn't my objective).
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    Default Re: What is the dv/dt side of an inductor

    Quote Originally Posted by Ioannis View Post
    ripple would be the same in either direction.

    As shielded inductor, this has to do with EMI only.

    Do not worry.

    Ioannis

    Still, I'll reverse the pinout for the part in Kicad and add a comment; just to keep things clean.

    I'd hate to use this part later and have EMI come and bite me in the asparagus.
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    Default Re: What is the dv/dt side of an inductor

    Sure, do it if you can. Will not hurt. On the contrary.

    The EMI will be less but i bet you won't be able to check the difference without proper tools (EMI antennas and Analyzers).

    Ioannis

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