DT Ints not working on 16F18426


Closed Thread
Results 1 to 30 of 30

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    australia
    Posts
    2,666


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No

    Default Re: DT Ints not working on 16F18426

    Bit the bullet and fished out an old 16f18875 from curiosity hpc board,
    code works fine. seems proteus fails to emulate that chip properly
    looks very much like the switch release triggers another interrupt that is not easily serviceable
    Warning I'm not a teacher

  2. #2


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No

    Default Re: DT Ints not working on 16F18426

    One important thing I learned from my EET courses years ago ..... circuits have 2 responses to a change in voltage/current. There is an initial response that relates mostly to inductance and capacitance and previous state of circuit, then there is the 'steady state response' that comes after the circuit settles to constant state (micro/milli seconds later). That is not exactly referring to switch/contact bounce, but the interrupt could be triggered/cleared many times from contact bounce unless there is some kind of circuit that debounces the mechanical switch. One kind of test could be done is have the interrupt count/display how many times it gets triggered from a switch press.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    australia
    Posts
    2,666


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No

    Default Re: DT Ints not working on 16F18426

    do simulated switches bounce in a simulated circuit simulation?
    do androids dream of electric sheep ?
    so many unknowns
    Warning I'm not a teacher

  4. #4


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No

    Default Re: DT Ints not working on 16F18426

    do simulated switches bounce in a simulated circuit simulation?
    I would suppose that there are good simulations and faulty simulations

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Posts
    457


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No

    Default Re: DT Ints not working on 16F18426

    looks very much like the switch release triggers another interrupt that is not easily serviceable
    That's one of the reasons why it's usually better NOT to use interrupts to handle things like button presses and just poll it.
    In your main loop you can still use the IOC IF flag to check and see if you need to look for a key press, but there you can add debounce delays, etc... things that don't really belong in an ISR.

    Polling for it in the main loop also gets around the problems created by getting interrupted in the middle of things, stuff like I2C, displays, serial ports, etc. that can't really get interrupted if they're used in both main and the ISR.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Greece
    Posts
    4,161


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No

    Default Re: DT Ints not working on 16F18426

    Tottaly agree with that.

    I got in a rabbit hole trying to make a keyboard matrix work in an ISR along with debounce etc. Just a waste of time...

    A tight loop is just fine. And as tumbleweed noted, use Interrupt just to note MCU that a key was pressed, maybe wake it up from sleep. Then a loop will do the rest.

    Even if other interrupts are needed when keyborad is serviced, ISR will do that just fine.

    Ioannis

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Location
    OK
    Posts
    557


    1 out of 1 members found this post helpful. Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No

    Default Re: DT Ints not working on 16F18426

    Darrel Taylor's Instant Interrupts (DT_INTs) changed things for the PBP world. PBP Interrupts are Polled, not actually using the built-in Interrupt hardware. Using ASM somewhat defeated the reason to buy PBP in the first place. Earlier PICs stayed with standardized naming conventions, Bank selection, and Bank location of SFRs. Newer PICs gave new names to familiar peripherals; like changing TMR2 to T2TMR for example. The newer PICxxQyy PICs even changed the default Bank from BANK0 to BANK4. No wonder DT_INTs no longer worked.

    A small group of us dove into the ASM behind the scenes for the DT_INTs and uncovered the working mechanisms. By changing naming, BANK locations of SFRs, and a few other things, we were able to get the incredible DT_INTs working on newer offerings. The good news is that a collaborative effort spells out what these changes entail, and how you can do it too. This body of work is available in The Book of DT's Interrupts.

Similar Threads

  1. WRITE and DT-INTS
    By Fredrick in forum mel PIC BASIC Pro
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: - 21st February 2016, 19:26
  2. DT-INTS and SSP1_INT
    By Christopher4187 in forum mel PIC BASIC Pro
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: - 26th April 2015, 01:34
  3. DT-ints-18, How to ...
    By iw2fvo in forum mel PIC BASIC Pro
    Replies: 18
    Last Post: - 7th January 2014, 20:41
  4. DT INTs which int to use??
    By Heckler in forum mel PIC BASIC Pro
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: - 13th March 2012, 00:23
  5. DT-ints-18 - new version
    By dip1 in forum mel PIC BASIC Pro
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: - 10th October 2007, 20:09

Members who have read this thread : 0

You do not have permission to view the list of names.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts