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    Quote Originally Posted by richard View Post
    ... in practice :- just after every semiconductor device is destroyed SCR shorts out Fuse

    What destroys ICs downstream after the SCR shorts to VSS?

    Is it a current surge?

    Or reverse voltage?


    Robert



    EDIT: Added NTC for current surge protection at output, and extra TVS up front (we get a lot of power surges here, hydro lines are not the most stable with so many trees).

    EDIT SOME MORE: In keeping with Tim The Toolman's philosophy of "cause we can", I added a Varistor on output.

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    Crowbar protection can be ineffective due to the time taken for it to activate. Everything of value is damaged in the milliseconds before comes in.
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    What about Zener/Mosfet design?

    https://theorycircuit.com/over-volta...ction-circuit/

    Darn, not that one either. It protects against reverse polarity.

    I saw some earlier, but can't find them now.
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    you could try
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    but i feel its a no gain process, a good switch-mode supply is cheaper and smaller
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    Quote Originally Posted by richard View Post
    you could try ... but i feel its a no gain process ...
    I'd really like to learn "something" in this exercise.


    The majority of the over-voltage links on the web either point to the naked zener, or zener-SCR and zener-FET. And a LOT of those threads get taken apart in the comments. It's like amateurs acting like they're gurus now.


    So I resorted to looking at the corporate sites; they usually know what they're doing, but I ignore them in the past cause it's often so much more complicated than my skill level.


    And then I fall on this one from TI:

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    Technical specs here:
    https://www.ti.com/lit/an/snoaa20/sn...FCIRCUIT060079

    - 1 IC
    - 4 Resistors
    - 2 Zeners
    - 1 MOSFET

    And it includes all the math to convert for 5V (I think).


    But I'm faced with the same question, will this design have a delay that won't really save anything sensitive downstream?


    Richard, that circuit you buy, doesn't that also have some delay to a certain degree?


    I'd be very interested in this IC, only downside, requires 7V in (without knowing more about it yet).
    https://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/tl714.pdf
    NEVER MIND, 7-12mA.

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