Pulsout Pic16F630 @16Mhz problem

[richard]

The pulses delivered are 240msec for a command "PULSOUT PORTC.3, 100"!?

by 240mS do you mean 240 micro seconds. a more likely result

What is my mistake or oversight?

not reading the manual

5.59 PULSOUT
PULSOUT Pin, Period
Generates a pulse on Pin of specified Period. The pulse is generated by toggling the pin twice, thus the initial state of the pin determines the polarity of the pulse. Pin is automatically made an output. Pin may be a constant, 0 - 15, or a variable that contains a number 0 - 15 (e.g. B0) or a pin name (e.g. PORTA.0).
The resolution of PULSOUT is dependent upon the oscillator frequency. If a 4MHz oscillator is used, the Period of the generated pulse will be in 10us increments. If a 20MHz oscillator is used, Period will have a 2us resolution. Defining an OSC value has no effect on PULSOUT. The resolution always changes with the actual oscillator speed.
' Send a pulse 1mSec long (at 4MHz) to Pin5
PULSOUT PORTB.5,100
PULSOUT is a legacy command that is included for compatibility with other languages.

[zorgloub]

@ Mpgmike,
Now you're confusing me
(I already don't know English very well, thanks to the automatic translators).
Well, actually I was an amateur user of the BS2x BasicStamp and I try to pour some programs into one or the other PIC.
The registers of the PICs and the commands other than the pure Basic of the Stamp, I don't know too much!
So, isn't declaring the High Speed fuse then sufficient for PicBAsicPro Compiler, as I wrote in my program?
So I don't understand your sentence "as if you were at 16 MHz using your external resonator, when in reality you are using the internal 4 MHz clock."
--> So does it work in 4Mhz or 16Mhz?

@Richard
(Yes, 240µsec!)
You say that setting OSC has no effect on PULSOUT but that the resolution depends on the crystal used.
What is the point of defining OSC?
And considering what Mpgmike said above, at what frequency does my Pic equipped with a 16Mhz resonator and high speed fuse indication work?

Here are the pulses I read on a logic analyser:

WITHOUT indicating Define OSC 16 :
PAUSE 200 = 50 msec (Isn't the resolution at 4Mhz 10µsec??)
PULSOUT 100 = 240µsec

Isn't the resolution at 4Mhz 10µsec?

WITH Define OSC 16 :
PAUSE 200 =200 msec
PULSOUT 100 = 240 µsec also

(Theoretical resolution at 16Mhz should be 2.5 µsec I think).
So the PIC would work well here at 16Mhz!

I have to admit that I'm getting confused here with the Pause and Pulsout resolutions and I'm trying to understand

[richard]

So, isn't declaring the High Speed fuse then sufficient for PicBAsicPro Compiler, as I wrote in my program?

for this chip yes

You say that setting OSC has no effect on PULSOUT but that the resolution depends on the crystal used.

?
its a legacy [old ] command, it does not use the OSC define in its operation

What is the point of defining OSC

non legacy commands do use the OSC define in their operations

And considering what Mpgmike said above

is incorrect and out of context for that chip

(Theoretical resolution at 16Mhz should be 2.5 µsec I think).
So the PIC would work well here at 16Mhz

thats it

[richard]

looks like the forum is broken. cannot edit last post

I have to admit that I'm getting confused here with the Pause and Pulsout resolutions and I'm trying to understand

pause uses OSC define to calculate TIME , Pulsout does not

[zorgloub]

I was wondering about the resolutions of the PAUSE command:

With "DEFINE OSC 16", PAUSE 200 gives a delay of 50 msec
The resolution here is therefore 250µsec per "unit".

WITHOUT "DEFINE OSC 16", PAUSE 200 gives a delay of 200 msec
The resolution here is 1msec per "unit".

Right?

--> What are legacy commands, I don't know this term

[richard]

i'm not sure what ver of pbp you are using but

@ Device Pic16F630,HS_osc, wdt_off, pwrt_on,protect_off, mclr_off

is old stuff, and probably case sensitive HS_osc looks doubtful
if this line is incorrect then the actual config fuse you are setting is the pbp default not what you think.
the default will be most likely use a 4mhz clock

With "DEFINE OSC 16", PAUSE 200 gives a delay of 50 msec

means the osc is 4mhz not 16, so your config line is incorrect

The resolution here is therefore 250µsec per "unit".

pause is always in mS but the actual osc must march the defined OSC

What are legacy commands, I don't know this term

commands that resemble old basicstamp style commands ,they are not as well integrated in the pbp operating environment