Charlie

"Are you sure you want a bootloader?"

It's coming into focus here.

We need the hardware so that a PIC on a breadboard will program just like MELABS D-Stick and Experimenter boards.

The 'software programmer' built in to PBasic will do the rest I believe.

"It's also bad form to start threads asking the same question all over the place"

My apoligies. Got excited finding forum. Finding PICBasic for that matter.

Email 'Reply in Forum' have been going to Spam folder. I will fix it.