Pic to GSM Phone connection (HSerin problems)

[Hamlet]

what dou you all study to know all that?
do you spend all day long in electronics and computer??

doesnt your girlfriend bother you?? opss... do you have one??

what is your life like??

you all seem to be genious!!

[Rufinus]

Hi everyone!
Did somebody try to connect Siemens mobile to PIC? I have S65 with no result
I guess, Siemens needs more then 3 wire connection.

[Lotondo]

@Rufinus

Check here maybe you'll find the solution
http://pinouts.ru/data/siemens_c55_pinout.shtml

[Rufinus]

Thanx, Lotondo.

But i do have the pinout of S65 and even service manual of C55/S55 (they are similar to S65).
Perhaps i should give some more detail of my problem.


I started with 16F84 and serout2 commands. Everything according to this thread.
Pic is connected to the phone through the MAX232 and original data cable, which came with tthe phone. I managed to connect pic and pc with 9600 baud and lower in bidirectional mode. No problem with that. Phone and pc communicate very good as well. Tried all kinds of commands, even sniffed on com2 port to see how original Siemens software is sending sms from pc.
Than i made an adapter, in order to determine how many wires are essential for communication between pc and phone using original cable. Result: 3 wires if enough for communication (did not try GPRS), AT commands are working from hyperterm.
Now, if i connect the same 3 wires to the pic, phone does nothing!!

This is driving me crazy for 2 days already

From this all i concluded, that problem is in Siemens original cable (?). Dont know what the problem, unfortunately. Gonna keep on trying.

Also desided to shift to pic16f870. Has more capabilities. Tried to send
Hserout ["ATD phonenumberhere", 13, 10]
at 9600 baud and received it on pc without problem. Phone still does nothing.

Should name it Enigma instead of Siemens

[Rufinus]

Here is the code i used to test it with PC:

DEFINE LOADER_USED 1

'UART hardware defines
DEFINE HSER_RCSTA 90h
DEFINE HSER_TXSTA 20h
DEFINE HSER_BAUD 9600
DEFINE HSER_CLROERR 1


'LCD defines
DEFINE LCD_DREG PORTA 'set LCD data port
DEFINE LCD_DBIT 0 'set starting data bit (0 or 4) if 4 bit bus
DEFINE LCD_RSREG PORTA 'set LCD register select port
DEFINE LCD_RSBIT 4 'set LCD register select bit
DEFINE LCD_EREG PORTB 'set LCD enable port
DEFINE LCD_EBIT 3 'set LCD enable bit
DEFINE LCD_BITS 4 'set LCD bus size (4 or 8 bits)
DEFINE LCD_LINES 2 'set number of LCD lines
DEFINE LCD_COMMANDUS 2000 'set command delay time in us
DEFINE LCD_DATAUS 50 'set data delay time in us
DEFINE OSC 20 'set crystal speed



'Main program


pause 1000 'wait for screen to sort get started
start:
lcdout $FE,1, "Sending number.."
pause 1000
HSEROUT ["atd **********", 13, 10]
HSERIN [wait("OK")]


lcdout $FE, 1, "Got it!"
pause 1000
goto start
end


It's running on 16f870 connected trough max232 to com2 port on pc, and i have no problem!
When i connect the phone following way:
PIC--->MAX232--->Data cable (original Siemens)--->Phone

Nothing happens!
That must be the cable. But from other side, phone is listening to commands from pc, using same cable with only 3 wires connected: Rx, Tx, GND
Miricle..

[Ioannis]

'Main program

pause 1000 'wait for screen to sort get started
start:
lcdout $FE,1, "Sending number.."
pause 1000
HSEROUT ["atd **********", 13, 10]
HSERIN [wait("OK")]

lcdout $FE, 1, "Got it!"
pause 1000
goto start
end

Try to add on top of your program:

HserOut ["AT",13,10] ;Sync modem to 9600 baud

Also if you power up PIC at the same time as the mobile you won't get reliable connection with the phone until the phone is on the network.

Ioannis

[Rufinus]

Thanx, but i tried this already. Nothing. And i do not power up the phone in the same time. Phone is just on costantly.

I thougt, maybe when i send AT, phone answers OK, but pic does not capture it (for whatever reason). So i changed to atd **********, because even if pic is not capturing the answer, phone should react (dial given number).
I started yesterday to build new cable, just typical 3 wires based on standard MAX232. Let's see what this will give. I will test it with the phone--->pc connection first, and than test with pic. And if this doesnt work, i should consider direct connection from pic to phone without max232 but just trough 1 kOhm resistors. Shall i send in inverted mode then?

And i measured voltages on the original cable, both form the phone's side and rs232 side. Cable was pluged in the phone and not in rs232. I can give them here, if somebody is interested. It seems, that phone is powering the cable's logic.