To IDE or Not to IDE

[muddy0409]

What the hell is IDE???????

[Melanie]

Just a flashy abbreviation used by geeks meaning "Integrated Development Environment". Whilst different IDE's have different features and can do different things, they generally share an Editor, a way of tracking your resource usage (eg variables, RAM, Beer consumption etc), encompass a simulator of sorts, and have an easy way of launching your compiler with the wrong settings. They'll tell you when your syntax is wrong when you know damn well it isn't, communicate flawlessly via their RS232 simulator when in the real world it doesn't happen, and use up your grey-matter that's better directed elsewhere. They are somebody's ideal way of writing programs - somebody's sure, but rarely yours. Since they don't make and bring the coffee, that's where I lose interest with them...

[muddy0409]

Hmmm.......
Sounds like an automated pencil & paper & eraser. That's still the best way I know to get something working. The file may not be pretty, but it will work just the way I want, especially after getting some answers to dumb questions from you blokes in here.

Muddy0409

[Acetronics2]

Hi, Mel

I just end to translate an unknown Basic to PbP "Intelligent" batt. Charger program ...
say 1000 basic lines to translate if needed, and to verify.

Without my IDE ( Mplab ... or MCS ) I'd still would be at work !!! it has shown me most of what to translate, vars forgotten to declare ( ! ), etc, etc ... and verified I hadn't forgotten a line.
Even a head ( yours i.e.) has its limits ...

Do not say anymore it's just good to make your coffee hot !!!

for hot coffee ... Elektor did a project some years ago, ... including a PIC, of course !!! no need a P4 processor ...
I thought in England, coffee was just some darker tea ...

cheers from France, and a happy new year.

Alain

[nomada]

Basically I use MicoCode Studio and MPLAB to program my PIC with Microchip PicStart.

[Ioannis]

I thought in England, coffee was just some darker tea ...

Alain

Well, I've been to Paris recently, and could not find anywere coffee worth to mention. In my country use to call the filter coffee "French Coffee". I don't know why, but even this was not available!

And the most close to hot classic nescafe was found at "Fouquet's" called "American coffee".

I invite you all to come to Greece an enjoy every coffee you heard, imagined, know or don't know! Pages of catalogues...

And of course many people here have designed circuits to keep mug warm with precise control from a 10 digit PIC ADC...

Ioannis

[Acetronics2]

Hi, Ioannis

Here, for real coffee, you have to let the Champs Elysees at some distance ...
the Fouquet's is just some degenerated Mc Do's ... with some strass !!!

Coffee burners shops offer quality and lots of different tastes ... and you could have found some in the closest avenues and streets leading to St Lazare station ... chocolate maker shops too !!!

I think it's the same in Greece ... places for tourists and "authentic" places !!!
Club Med's coffee is really awful.

Next time you come ... ask for a Turkish coffee !!! and overall ... look for that unique coffee w/ cream smell you only find in small cafés ... or coffee shops.

Alain

[Ioannis]

I am sure that will be back again. Five days is too little time!

Thanks for the suggestions.

Ioannis

[bearpawz]

Just a flashy abbreviation used by geeks meaning "Integrated Development Environment". Whilst different IDE's have different features and can do different things, they generally share an Editor, a way of tracking your resource usage (eg variables, RAM, Beer consumption etc), encompass a simulator of sorts, and have an easy way of launching your compiler with the wrong settings. They'll tell you when your syntax is wrong when you know damn well it isn't, communicate flawlessly via their RS232 simulator when in the real world it doesn't happen, and use up your grey-matter that's better directed elsewhere. They are somebody's ideal way of writing programs - somebody's sure, but rarely yours. Since they don't make and bring the coffee, that's where I lose interest with them...

"Launching your compiler with the wrong settings" ROTF!!! Launching your programmer with the wrong settings too! Why cant MCSP and ICPROG just work together?! LOL (Note: The can play nice but it takes a lot of work and still have to select PIC manualy in ICPROG)

[selbstdual]

Which integrated development environment are you in bed with?

My girlfriend. I will make a mental note of the fact that she offers an integrated development environment. This is a GREAT metaphor

[jcleaver]

i use microstudio because thats whats for pbp or at least thats what i thought however i have been looking around though cant afford to switch out
but as a novice what i seen from mikroelektronika seems hands down simpler than what i am using hope to see update's in product use and not only on waht chips it supports. from what i read on posts i am not alone in this

thanks

jack