To IDE or Not to IDE

[Melanie]

This Poll is a request from one of our Members... who want's to know what IDE everyone's using. No flames, no arguments for or against, just make your choice and see where it takes us...

[Bruce]

Hi Mel,

I prefer MicroCode Studio Plus for general work, and MPLAB for serious
de-bugging sessions.

[crematory]

Hello Melanie

I prefer MCSP and I like it very much, its very nice indeed, and the most important thing is the code explorer, and nice user interface, its amazing, but CodeDesigner has a nice drop down meues when you are writing the code that is good, but the user interface is bad, and lack of code explorer is also frustrating, I wish that MCSP add the code drop down menues, so that it becomes the perfect IDE for PICBasic Pro.

[Acetronics2]

Hi, Mel

MPLAB !!! ... only MPLAB.

and MPASMwin assembler as option.

Alain

[ErnieM]

Dittos to Acetronics. MPLAB and MPASM for me.

familiar environment for me

same place I do my assembly development

knows how to use my programming tools (even PicKit 1) (Pickit 2 promised SOON)

and there lives a simulator there

[mister_e]

MicoCode Studio Only. No need for me to use MPLAB or ... really not often. The only situations i use MPLAB is for using StopWatch and to program my PIC with PicStart.

No comments about MPLAB IDE. I just found MicroCode studio more interesting to 'surf' in my code.. even if they have now almost more than 32K.

The use of the code explorer allow me to see/switch/jump directly to a specific area of my code in a snap.

As i use bootloader in most of my apps, everything is done in the same program. Including Serial communication window.

Easy to use, and really usefull IMHO. But there's place for 1 or 2 improvement.

1. Add possibility to send saved .Bin,.Hex or else type of file
2. Add possibility to save received serial data in various file type .Bin,.Hex

Well it's just a suggestion. I did my own program to do that. If we could have the option to have some quick-lauch into the IDE, that will be great too.

I wish that MCSP add the code drop down menues, so that it becomes the perfect IDE for PICBasic Pro.

Could be interesting too.

[Dwayne]

I like the options that MPLAB has on its IDE, problem is, I haven't been able to set it up yet...(Probably because I haven't taken up much time to do so).

MicroCode Studio sat up the first time, did all the work for me, and allowed me to sing and whistle dixie without any hassle. It is basic, and gets the job done for me.

I am sure there are other better IDE's, and I am sure if you purchased the complete MicroCode Studio with all the bells and whistles, it would be even nicer.

For the projects I am doing, I am just fine with the basics....Its better than the old method I used...<g>.

Dwayne

[afbecker]

MicroChip's MPLAB IDE I think it is up to Vr. 6

[muddy0409]

What the hell is IDE???????

[Melanie]

Just a flashy abbreviation used by geeks meaning "Integrated Development Environment". Whilst different IDE's have different features and can do different things, they generally share an Editor, a way of tracking your resource usage (eg variables, RAM, Beer consumption etc), encompass a simulator of sorts, and have an easy way of launching your compiler with the wrong settings. They'll tell you when your syntax is wrong when you know damn well it isn't, communicate flawlessly via their RS232 simulator when in the real world it doesn't happen, and use up your grey-matter that's better directed elsewhere. They are somebody's ideal way of writing programs - somebody's sure, but rarely yours. Since they don't make and bring the coffee, that's where I lose interest with them...

[muddy0409]

Hmmm.......
Sounds like an automated pencil & paper & eraser. That's still the best way I know to get something working. The file may not be pretty, but it will work just the way I want, especially after getting some answers to dumb questions from you blokes in here.

Muddy0409

[Acetronics2]

Hi, Mel

I just end to translate an unknown Basic to PbP "Intelligent" batt. Charger program ...
say 1000 basic lines to translate if needed, and to verify.

Without my IDE ( Mplab ... or MCS ) I'd still would be at work !!! it has shown me most of what to translate, vars forgotten to declare ( ! ), etc, etc ... and verified I hadn't forgotten a line.
Even a head ( yours i.e.) has its limits ...

Do not say anymore it's just good to make your coffee hot !!!

for hot coffee ... Elektor did a project some years ago, ... including a PIC, of course !!! no need a P4 processor ...
I thought in England, coffee was just some darker tea ...

cheers from France, and a happy new year.

Alain

[bearpawz]

Just a flashy abbreviation used by geeks meaning "Integrated Development Environment". Whilst different IDE's have different features and can do different things, they generally share an Editor, a way of tracking your resource usage (eg variables, RAM, Beer consumption etc), encompass a simulator of sorts, and have an easy way of launching your compiler with the wrong settings. They'll tell you when your syntax is wrong when you know damn well it isn't, communicate flawlessly via their RS232 simulator when in the real world it doesn't happen, and use up your grey-matter that's better directed elsewhere. They are somebody's ideal way of writing programs - somebody's sure, but rarely yours. Since they don't make and bring the coffee, that's where I lose interest with them...

"Launching your compiler with the wrong settings" ROTF!!! Launching your programmer with the wrong settings too! Why cant MCSP and ICPROG just work together?! LOL (Note: The can play nice but it takes a lot of work and still have to select PIC manualy in ICPROG)

[selbstdual]

Which integrated development environment are you in bed with?

My girlfriend. I will make a mental note of the fact that she offers an integrated development environment. This is a GREAT metaphor

[Eng4444]

I am using it and doing fine... it's very easy.

[Patrick]

I find MPlab to difficult as I have reach the age where the grey matter is forgetting to easily and that Microcode studio is to expensive. Rand / Dol and plus tax will cost me more than a arm and a leg.Then I use only 3 or 4 different pic's for my projects,dont need all it other stuff.
Oshonsoft has got a nice pic simulator but not compatable with PBP
I want to see pictures

A picture is worth a thousand words.

Patrick

[Acetronics2]

Hi Patrick

Did you try THIS : http://www.virtualbreadboard.com/VBBSetup_1_4_FW.zip

...

Alain

[victorf57]

"Oshonsoft has got a nice pic simulator but not compatable with PBP"
Hi,Patrick
I have used it with PBP.
I also own virtualbreadboard and it also works with PBP.
Victor