Hello Ralph,

thanks for trying to help,
but at the moment there are other problems that "13"

You can send as many "13's" as you want,
if the Controller is never selected it will just do nothing!
Gosh you ought to be proud of me remembering to "Quote" <chuckle>

I agree with you... I sent another message... I just see so many "Variables" he is trying to play with...When he should only be concerned with one Variable...Turning it on. And possibly another... Writing "Hello" to it to verify that it is turned on.

I have not used the Shiftout method... you did a splinded job on seeing that in the Data sheet. I can only assume he knows how to write to the controller... (how ever that is)... LIke you said before(which I agree)... I am not going to read the manual of a LCD that I don't care to use... But you and I both know what it takes to "tickle" that LCD to make it write ASCII...

Dwayne