I appreciate the help guys. I had a tab then a space after. fixed to a space before and a space after but MCLR is still active. I even said the hell with it and changed it in the device folder and still no go. checked .asm file and looks like it is writing it right. Wish I could read the .hex I'm wondering if it is my programmer but I have programmed tons of other pics with no problems what so ever. Xeltek Superpro 580u