Hi Dave,

I'm not the one that is trying to messure on pin 13

Well I agree on that you could stop the oscillator with your scope prope,
that's why I asked Netjammer if he was messuring directly on the osc pins.

I don't know the LAB X1 board, but when I read about it, it says that it has a crystal oscillator that can be set to different frequencies.

So as you say Dave you can not messure directly on the pins when using a crystal and 2 caps hooked up to the PIC because the capacity from the skop prope wil stop the oscillation, but it is possible to messure the output on a "extern" oscillator like the one I think is on the LAB X1 board.

Puuh, I hope you understand me english, writing is absolut not what I like most!

Regards
Sharky