I just spent another 3 long hours researching and found another half dozen code examples but all of them were once again for pic18f series with hardware spi and other external parts I don't have access to and I don't have enough experience to understand the commands. So can anyone help with specifically shiftin/shiftout and pic16f series code examples or point out anything I may have missed? And again, how do pipes and addressing work exactly? Do I send the Rx address before the data or the pipe number??? Is it a separate command? I have a feeling that that's where the problem is.