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    Arrow Thanks for the LU table

    Hi everybody,

    Thanks for the table. The schematic block that you have posted indicates that you are using an already boosted battery voltage to drive an IGBT bridge. I am trying to drive it straight into a transformer for boost up. I wonder if this is going to work.

    By the way batee any PIC with an onboard HWPWM and ADC will do. You are damn right about the APC UPS.

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    When I understand it good, you are going to switsch the 24 V over the bridge into an output transformer, and the voltage what is cumming out of the transformer, will pass the low pass filter for making a sinewave.
    I hope you will find a good output transformer for it !!!???

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    Smile I have my own transformer manufacturing unit

    Hi Matt,

    I understand your concern but I am hopeful here since I have got my own transformer manufacturing unit. So from paper to product and fine tuning issues I have got a plus point over here.However I am not sure of the actual losses and bulk of the design for practical use so I might need to design a battery boost circuit.

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    Please let me know if it works and how you did it. And if you have some questions about the hardware, just let me know, maybe I can help.

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    Smile I will send you my final design

    Okay Matt,

    That would be great. I need to design a RCD snubber and I don't know the maths may be you can help. I am concerned about the switch off peaks.
    I would send you the entire schematic as soon as I finish it up. It will take some time but I will keep in touch.
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    As an aside... talking about Transformers... the 50 year Copyright (1953) has expired on the Radiotron Designers Handbook. I use this as my bible for Transformer Design and it's abosolutely brilliant - the principles in design are as valid today as they were back then. You can download it from the internet from various places (including the link below) - but be warned it's about 70Mb total pdf...

    http://elysiansound.com/goo.php

    Most Transformer manufacturers have forgotten most of this stuff (and it reflects in the abysmal products they produce). So, if you're into rolling your own (or commercially designing), then you'll love this, if you're not, then it's a sure cure for insomnia.

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    Give me please some data about the switching frequency of the system and inductances of the transformer then I will sent you snubber data

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    Default Is there any better site?

    Im trying to download the CHAPTERS from the site.But it is extremely difficult to open.Going to home page most links are not correct and site is under renewal.Can anybody be please send link to mirror site(s)?
    Thanks in advance.

    Also please let me know if anybody has used transformer after the H-Bridge and whether the operating frquency of transformer supposed to be output sinewave or the switching frequency? In case the fequency is that of output,
    then we loose advantage of switching and having small transformers like in smps.








    Quote Originally Posted by Melanie
    As an aside... talking about Transformers... the 50 year Copyright (1953) has expired on the Radiotron Designers Handbook. I use this as my bible for Transformer Design and it's abosolutely brilliant - the principles in design are as valid today as they were back then. You can download it from the internet from various places (including the link below) - but be warned it's about 70Mb total pdf...

    http://elysiansound.com/goo.php

    Most Transformer manufacturers have forgotten most of this stuff (and it reflects in the abysmal products they produce). So, if you're into rolling your own (or commercially designing), then you'll love this, if you're not, then it's a sure cure for insomnia.

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    Dear Sougata,
    I haven't seen the entire code at all but just one table of delays for
    sinewave. Also I have faint recollection of the block diagram.
    Truly speaking Im not much PIC er. Im doing everything with ATMEL
    micros. I have found this forum while searching for sinewave inverter.
    I think it doesn't matter which company U use but design is more importatnt.
    So I can understand code very well.
    I also have Transformer Unit but it is for HT Instrumentation type.
    I think that varying amplitude with delays and error adding will work only
    maximum upto 70% of basic amplitude. After that U will have gross THD due
    to most of delays at zero crossing very small.(It appears in class D amplifiers
    of analog kind). I haven't seen whether such approach works with truly
    variable amplitude or from 0 to 120% of the amplitude.
    What I m saying is not double conversion but switchng of Buck Boost
    mosfets with 2 ports from same PIC outputs and CORRECT amplitude there.(See attached bmp file.) In this s1 and s2 are mosfets whose timings is controlled to vary the voltage.
    Im in India but near Mumbai so here not much Inverter brouhaha is there.
    Melanie has agreed that this DSP method is not so good although everybody
    is claiming otherwise.
    I am also looking for design in which there should be no such bulky
    transformer of 50Hz. If I have read right then proper driving of mosfets
    would result in 20-40Khz output which is double modulated. this can use
    high frequency transformer with centre tapped secondary and demodulator cum filter circuit which will give 50Hz output!!
    As presently the transformer is costing about 50% of the total invertor
    cost and one can imagine savings. Also as many circuits are having SMPS type charger for battery the advantage is obivious.(Compare APLAB 30V 1A
    regulated supply with 250W computer smps,)
    Hope to have more discussion on this.
    regards,
    dayama
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